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Re: Walther Dahl
we may wonder if this was not a strategy to shorten the captivity duration ...
Or reflect the fact that at that time , communism was not only a paradise , but also the future for Europe nd the whole world, but events , with help of Franco nd WW II, bias the trend .. Rémi Many thks for all the facts regarding the achievments of Walther Dahl, I always thought that Dahl, was not the bad boy depaint after the war |
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thanks a lot for the additional info. I keep trying hard to identify the date indicated for claim #100. I remember having heard Dahl said his 100th kill was achieved on 1March. However, the date in your Leistungsbuch looks more like a 4March...(?) Best greetings from Brandenburg, Michael |
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[quote=Jean-Yves Lorant;258017]
As always in this kind of conversion, we may wonder if this was not a strategy to shorten the captivity duration ... Even after the fall of the Berlin wall he was appearing in Guido Knopp documentaries stating what a great idea his defection had been. That's not exactly boasting about the communist paradise but he certainly seemed to miss the point that the Soviet system was as murderous as the Nazi one |
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Important issue but not connected with Dahl.
Can you identify the date of Dahl's 100th claim on Mr. Lorant's document ? |
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Dahl and Einsiedel both served in III./JG 3 during the Stalingrad fighting. As two men who served beside each other in the same unit, it is interesting to contrast the accuracy of their claiming and how their political beliefs played out. One remained fiercely National Socialist, the other embraced Communism
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IMHO, I believe Einsiedel only embraced Communism because he did not believe Hitler would win the war and he wanted to have a better existence after he was shot down.
I have his book and don't find any whole hearted support for Communism. Remember, he came from an aristocratic family and these generally don't turn into communists Also, we can look at the case of Graf who also became more Communist leaning after becoming a Russian POW |
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Here is a brief but interesting study of Dahl at 2:39 in the sunglasses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9ATh-7nQZk Don Pearson and G.R. Morrison provided the pilot IDs in this film. This weekly newsreel was in the cinemas on 4 June 1944. At 2:32 - Kemethmüller 2:35 - Lt. Dieter Zink, posing in front of 'Tutti' Müller's Kommodoremaschine of the JG 3* 2:39 - Walter Dahl 2:43 - 'Tutti' Müller with Dahl 2:46 - Moritz |
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Yes, I agree, there was never any evidence (aside from his book!) of Dahl's intentional crash into a B-17 on September 13, 1944. Most telling, there is no mention of the "ramming" on that date in his flugbüch. However, Dahl did record claims for an Abschuss & Herrausschutz against B-17s on September 13. Attached is the relevant page from Dahl's FB. Regards, Russ Last edited by Russ Fahey; 24th September 2018 at 15:49. |
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Good morning Russ,
thanks for posting this interesting document. However, as far a I can see the Flugbuch entry for 1+1HSS kills is for 13Sep. Is there an according entry in his Leistungsbuch ? (Mr Lorant mentioned above that there is no ramming documented in the latter.) Best autumn greetings from Germany, Michael |
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