10/05/1940 Do17Z W/nr. 4521

[Luc Vervoort]

Hi !
The SGLO loss register (aircraft which crashed during WWII in the Netherlands) mentions that Do17Z (w/nr. 4521) crashed on 10/05/1940 at Westmaas – Ritselaarsdijk. Who has more details (sa names and fate to its crew + cause of the crash) ?
Many thanks in advance and best regards from Belgium
Luc

[John Beaman]

Luc:

Not sure what date you are listing. Could be Oct 5, 1940 or 10-May-1940. Please clarify.

We encourage poster to use the DD-MMM-YYYY format as it is the most common and makes date very clear.

THX

[Luc Vervoort]

Hi John,

The date is May 10, 1940.

Best regards from the other side of the ocean.

Luc

[Merlin]

Luc,

the given WNr. could not be correct, the highest number on Do 17 aircraft is 4252.

As per GQM: The aircraft was from Aufklärungsstaffel/7.Fliegerdivision with unit code 4Q+KH. It had to make an emergency landing after receiving battle damage, the crew of Oblt. Lannguth became POW.

[Luc Vervoort]

Merlin,

Thanks for this correction and the additional information !

Best regards from Belgium

Luc

[Larry Hickey]

Luc,

Haven't heard from you in a while.

I have this in our EoE Loss List DB as:
"May 10, 1940: Aufkl.St. 7 Fl.Div. Dornier Do17Z (4521). Shot down by Fokker G1 of 3-II-1 (Sgt-Major Buwalda & Sgt Wagner) and belly-landed in polder ‘Het Oudeland van Strijen’, between Westmaas and Cillaarshoek, 5.10 a.m. Oberlt Erich Langhuth, Lt[Lothar] Sähloff, Uffz Gerhard Rogall, and Uffz Bernhard Striet all captured unhurt. Aircraft 4Q+KH 100% write-off.
This crew vacated the aircraft and started walking towards Westmaas. After an exchange of fire with troops from a searchlight unit near Munnikendijk, during which two Dutch soldiers were killed, they commandeered a military car and driver in an effort to reach German lines at Dordrecht. But, unable to find a way off Hoekse Waard island, they were forced to abandon the car near Puttershoek where they eventually surrendered to troops of the Dutch 34 IR."

According info from the source for several photos of this a/c: "Between Westmaas and Cillaarshoek is located the polder “Het Oudeland van Strijen” and this polder is bordered at the north side by the Ritselaarsdijk and it is there that the Dornier carried out a belly landing.
Of course there are as almost always numerous civilians who are surprised by what’s happening. They see how Leutnant Sähloff, Oberleutnant Langhuth and the Unteroffiziere Rogall and Strietz climb down the aircraft. The four Germans belonged to the Aufklärungsstaffel (F) des II. Flakkorpses and from early May on they have been added to the strength of 7. Flieger Division."

is this what you're looking for? Do you have further info or photos on this incident?

Warmest regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator

[Jaap Woortman]

I am wondering were the name Erich Langhuth is coming from. Weiss maybe?

According to the Luftwaffe Officer Career Summaries Section L-R, version: 01 April 2013 by Henry L. deZeng IV and Douglas G. Stankey the name should be Langguth and his firstname Gerhard. From Erich is no unit mentioned, but of Gerhard the unit was Aufkl.St./Fliegerdivision 7. And that fits quite well. So it seems most likely that he, Gerhard, was the Oblt. on board of the Do 17 that crashed near Cillaarshoek.
In this summarie is no name like Langhuth or Lannguth.

LANGGUTH, Erich. (DOB: 03.03.14). 01.09.41 promo to Hptm.
LANGGUTH, Gerhard. (i.G.). (DKG). 1939-40 Hptm. in (Staka?) Aufkl.St./Fliegerdivision 7.
01.07.43 Hptm. in Führerreserve RLM/Ob.d.L., appt Ic Feindlage/XI. Fliegerkorps (to 01.03.44). 01.11.43
Hptm., unspecified Flieger Korps, awarded the DKG. 01.03.44 Hptm., appt Ic/Fallschirm-AOK 1. 01.05.44 promo to Maj.


Jaap

[Jim P.]

I have to agree with Merlin. The highest Do 17 WNr. that is contiguous with other Do 17 losses is WNr. 4252. I have 11 WNr. above that, but they are obvious outliers and mistakes in loss reports. They range from WNr. 4304 through WNr. 255320. Most are likely Do 217s reported as Do 17s.

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

I have to agree with Jaap regarding the name. It should be Langguth Erich. The initial entry in the GQM is from 18-May-1940 then corected on 04-Aug-1940 that they returned from captivity.

Norbert

[Luc Vervoort]

Hi Larry, Jaap, Jim and Norbert,


Thanks for the additional information. Unfortunately I don’t have any photographs of this plane.


Which is the source of the w/nr 4521 ? Was this mentioned in a document or based on a photograph ?


Many thanks again and best regards


Luc