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Old 1st February 2023, 20:14
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Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

Scheduled for 22 March.

https://www.amazon.com/Air-Battles-B...s%2C201&sr=1-8

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Old 2nd February 2023, 02:14
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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

Great author! I have read this book and read nearly all his Russian articles on warspot.ru.
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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

details at Ed's link state 170 pages only - the hardback edition released in 2018 was 448 pages
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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

Helion also published the hardcover edition. It's an outstanding scholarly production, but I would be inclined to think its audience would be comparatively limited, perhaps too limited to warrant a heavily truncated paperback edition? Just a thought.

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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

https://www.helion.co.uk/military-hi...tic-region.php


From the publisher's website. Paperback listed at 448 pp.
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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

Yep, I guess the Amazon version is a typo.
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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

I have heard from a very credible source that Timin is a very biased author who basically supports Stalinist interpretations...
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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

Jukka -

I read the book cover-to-cover and only found a few place that would support your opinion, and in each case Timin was quoting another person or article. His reproduction of data from wartime documents seemed unbiased and accurate to me.

I, too, was told the same thing you were told, but I gathered it was in reference to opinions expressed in a few magazine articles, his spoken words during TV interviews and on computer Blogs.

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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

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I have heard from a very credible source that Timin is a very biased author who basically supports Stalinist interpretations...
I can echo what Larry said. The book (I have the hardcover edition) based on primary, archival materials and he did not hide the serious errors, committed by the Soviet leadership in many aspects (what a 'Stalinist' author would definitely do). I'm missing some analythical approach and explanations, which IMHO would be useful for the readers but in general, it is a serious scholarly work with many illuminating aspects so I would recommend it to anyone without hesitation. (There are several definitely translating errors which were more disturbing to me, but translating a large tome is always a demanding and challenging work).
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Re: Air Battles in the Baltic 1941: The Air War on 22 June 1941 - The Battle for Stalin's Baltic Region

Larry, the source was (and is) a well-known Finnish aothority on Soviet aviation himself. His comment directly translated:"Timin's style is however old-school (if not even 'Stalinist') in that he does not explain why and how the Red Air Force even entered the Baltics and the Winter War Iis barely mentioned (in which most the discussed units did participate in from the bases in the Baltics!) in passim. "
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