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Heinz Baer's vic total
Guys:
Might as well ask for this Guy's list as well: Anybody ever tally Heinz Baer's victory list? As far as I know it's never been posted at Katcha's great experten site but I am hoping somebody has tallied up his score; TiA nickm |
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
Claim No//Date/ /A/c Type
1 25 09 39 Hawk-75A 2 21 05 40 Spitfire 3 23 05 40 Hurricane 4 18 08 40 Hurricane 5 20 08 40 Spitfire 6 24 08 40 Hurricane 7 29 08 40 Hurricane 8 02 09 40 Hurricane 9 08 09 40 Spitfire 10 09 09 40 Hurricane 11 15 09 40 Spitfire 12 08 11 40 Hurricane 13 08 11 40 Hurricane 14 16 04 41 Hurricane 15 21 04 41 Hurricane 16 06 05 41 Spitfire 17 11 05 41 Spitfire 22 06 41 I 16 18 I 16 19 SB 2 20 SB 2 21 25 06 41 I 16 22 I 16 23 30 06 41 SB 2 24 SB 2 25 SB 2 26 SB 2 27 SB 2 2 07 41 IL2 5 07 41 DB-3 DB-3 MiG-3 6 07 41 Su 2 Su 2 11 07 SB 2 SB 2 SB 2 21 07 41 ? ? ? ? ? 22 07 41 bomb 40 bomb 23 07 Pe-2 23 07 Pe-2 23 07 R-3 24 07 I-18 26 07 R-3 R-3 29 07 bomb bomb I 16 9 08 41 bomb bomb bomb 60 14 08 41 ? 61 ? 62 ? 73 30 08 41 ? 74 ? 75 ? 76 ? 77 ? 78 ? 79 31 08 41 bomb 80 bomb ranny 81 28 11 41 SB-3 82 02 12 41 I-18 83 I-18 84 Pe-2 85 I-61 86 05 12 I-61 87 07 12 Pe-2 88 Pe-2 89 10 02 42 Pe2 90 11 02 42 92 16 05 42 LaGG3 93 LaGG3 94 17 05 42 MiG3 95 MiG3 96 MiG3 97 18 05 42 LaGG3 98 LaGG3 99 19 05 42 I 16 100 I 16 101 I 16 102 I 16 103 I 16 104 05 06 42 DB-3 105-112 113 27 06 42 ? - 11 10 42 Spitfire w.b. 114 13 10 42 Spitfire 115 13 10 42 Spitfire 116 14 10 42 Spitfire 117 17 10 42 Spitfire 118 02 11 42 Spitfire 119 03 11 42 P40 120 03 11 42 P40 121 03 11 42 P40 122 03 11 42 P40 123 03 11 42 P40 124 05 11 42 Spitfire 125 05 11 42 P40 126 09 11 42 P40 127 10 11 42 P40 128 10 11 42 P40 129 11 11 42 P40 130 11 11 42 P40 131 07 12 42 Spitfire 132 07 12 42 Spitfire 133 08 12 42 P40 134 08 12 42 P40 135 10 12 42 P40 136 10 12 42 P40 137 11 12 42 P40 138 14 12 42 P40 139 14 12 42 P40 140 14 01 43 P-40 141 14 01 43 Mitchell 142 14 01 43 Mitchell 143 14 01 43 Spitfire 144 14 01 43 Spitfire 145 21 01 43 P38 146 21 01 43 P38 147 23 01 43 P40 P40 148 25 01 43 P40 149 25 01 43 P40 150 27 01 43 P40 151 27 01 43 P40 152 27 01 43 P40 153 04 02 43 B17 154 04 02 43 B17 155 15 02 43 Spitfire 156 Spitfire 157 26 02 43 P40 158 P40 159 P40 160 P40 161 P40 162 27 02 43 Beaufighter P-40 163 01 03 43 Spitfire 164 03 03 43 Spitfire 165 Spitfire 166 05 03 43 Spitfire 167 Spitfire 168 06 03 43 P 40 169 P 40 170 07 03 43 P 40 171 10 03 43 P40 172 23 03 43 P40 P40/P-39 173 24 03 43 P40 174 P40 175 ?? 25 03 43 A-20 Boston 175?? 26 03 43 P40 176 16 04 43 Spitfire 19 04 43 Spitfire 177 29 04 43 Spitfire 178 02 12 43 B-17 179 02 12 43 P-38 180 10 02 44 B-17 181 10 02 44 P-47 182 21 02 44 B-17 183 21 02 44 P-51 184 21 02 44 B-17F-20-DL 42-3040 OR*Q ‘Miss Ouachita’ 2Lt Spencer J Osterberg S/D Maj. Heinz Bär (184/221) 21 Feb 44 185 22 02 44 B-17 186 22 02 44 B-17 187 24 02 44 B-24 188 24 02 44 B-24 189 25 02 44 B-17 HSS - 25 02 44 B-17 eV 190 25 02 44 B-17 HSS 191 25 02 44 B-24 192 3 03 44 P-51 193 6 03 44 B-17 194 6 03 44 B-17 195 6 03 44 B-17 196 29 03 44 P-51 197 29 03 44 P-51 198 08 04 44 B-24 199 11 04 44 B-17 200 22 04 44 B-24 201 29 04 44 P-47 202 29 04 44 B-24 203 07 08 44 P-47 204 01 01 45 Typhoon 205 01 01 45 Typhoon 206 19 03 45 P-51 Me-262 207 21 03 45 B-24 Me-262 208 24 03 45 B-24 Me-262 209 24 03 45 P-51 Me-262 27 03 45 P-47 P-47 P-47 210 04 04 45 P-51 Me-262 211 09 04 45 B-26 Me-262 212 09 04 45 B-26 Me-262 213 12 04 45 B-26 214 18 04 45 P-47 Me-262 215 18 04 45 P-47 Me-262 216 19 04 45 P-51 Me-262 217 19 04 45 P-51 Me-262 218 27 04 45 P-47 Me-262? 219 P-47 Me-262? 220 29 04 45 P-47 Me-262? 221 29 04 45 Mosquito Me-262? I have a better list, but the reseracher who shared it with me won't allow me to share it with others. Regards, Rob Romero Luftwaffe Ace/Experte Enthusiast (2.5+ Gigabytes of Photos & Data) “...once you get out there everything is so quiet, all you hear is the breezes-s-s-s...” Jimi Hendrix -101st Airborne Division |
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
Rob:
Thanks...whomever that other researcher is, he ought to pass the tally over to Petr Kacha & have him post in on his Experten site! nm |
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
I presume you have noticed the link above to Tony Wood's lists??
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
In the words of the famous Greek Philosopher: "Link?? WHAT link??"
nickm |
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
Hi Nick
Oskar-Heinz had a number of unconfirmed in his total, which i have as 211. Send me your e.mail address and I'll forward his full list with Date/time/Altitude/Place/Type e.tc. Regards Johannes P.S after a big fall out with goring he had trouble getting his confirmed and was refused the Brilleten seven times because of Gorings intervention! |
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
Hi,
I'm an author of Bär's claim list which is published above. This list is based on Tony Wood's combat claims web page & some other publications. Here is update version 2.0 Johannes, could you share with your list also with me ? Claim No Date Time A/c Type 1 25 09 39 12:30 Hawk-75A 2 21 05 40 16:20 Spitfire 3 23 05 40 11:10 Hurricane 4 18 08 40 19:45 Hurricane 5 20 08 40 16:20 Spitfire 6 24 08 40 16:20 Hurricane 7 29 08 40 19:45 Hurricane 8 02 09 40 09:15 Hurricane 9 08 09 40 Spitfire 10 09 09 40 Hurricane 11 15 09 40 Spitfire 12 08 11 40 Hurricane 13 08 11 40 Hurricane 14 16 04 41 18:25 Hurricane 15 21 04 41 20:07 Hurricane 16 06 05 41 14:10 Spitfire 17 11 05 41 21:40 Spitfire - 22 06 41 I 16 18 I 16 19 SB 2 20 SB 2 21 25 06 41 I 16 22 I 16 23 30 06 41 SB 2 24 SB 2 25 SB 2 26 SB 2 27 SB 2 2 07 41 IL2 5 07 41 DB-3 DB-3 MiG-3 6 07 41 Su 2 Su 2 11 07 SB 2 SB 2 SB 2 21 07 41 ? ? ? ? ? 22 07 41 bomb 40 bomb ? ? ? 23 07 41 Pe-2 Pe-2 R-3 ? ? 24 07 I-18 ? ? ? 50? ? 26 07 R-3 R-3 29 07 bomb bomb I 16 9 08 41 bomb bomb bomb 60 14 08 41 ? 61 ? 62 ? ? ? 73 30 08 41 ? 74 ? 75 ? 76 ? 77 ? 78 ? 79 31 08 41 Pe-2 80 Pe-2 -wounded- 81 28 11 41 SB-3 82 02 12 41 I-18 83 I-18 84 Pe-2 85 I-61 86 05 12 I-61 87 07 12 Pe-2 88 Pe-2 89 10 02 42 Pe2 90 11 02 42 ? 91 ? ? ? 92 16 05 42 10.35 LaGG3 93 10.40 LaGG3 94 17 05 42 13.05 Ił-2 95 13.35 I-15 96 13.40 I-15 97 18 05 42 12.10 LaGG3 98 16.05 LaGG3 99 19 05 42 9.42 R-5 100 16.42 I 16 101 16.45 I 16 102 16.46 I 16 103 16.50 I 16 104 05 06 42 9.32 DB-3 105 13 06 42 12.35 I-16 106 14 06 42 18.58 I-16 107 19.00 I-16 108 17 06 42 17.35 MBR-2 109 19 06 42 4.17 I-16 110 21 06 42 18.35 I-16 111 18.41 I-16 112 27 06 42 6.34 I-16 113 6.43 I-16 - 11 10 42 Spitfire w.b. 114 13 10 42 07:58 Spitfire 115 13 10 42 08:14 Spitfire 116 14 10 42 17:59 Spitfire 117 17 10 42 Spitfire 118 02 11 42 14:50 Spitfire 119 03 11 42 12:08 P40 120 03 11 42 12:10 P40 121 03 11 42 15:55 P40 122 03 11 42 15:58 P40 123 03 11 42 16:12 P40 124 05 11 42 13:40 Spitfire 125 05 11 42 13:50 P40 126 09 11 42 14:50 P40 127 10 11 42 14:34 P40 128 10 11 42 14:38 P40 129 11 11 42 09:30 P40 130 11 11 42 09 38 P40 131 07 12 42 14:50 Spitfire 132 07 12 42 14:52 Spitfire 133 08 12 42 10:40 P40 134 08 12 42 10:40 P40 135 10 12 42 15:10 P40 136 10 12 42 15:15 P40 137 11 12 42 15:35 P40 138 14 12 42 11:20 P40 139 14 12 42 11:21 P40 140 14 01 43 10:39 P-40 141 14 01 43 10:43 Mitchell 142 14 01 43 10:44 Mitchell 143 14 01 43 14:32 Spitfire 144 14 01 43 14:37 Spitfire 145 21 01 43 15:15 P38 146 21 01 43 15:15 P38 147 23 01 43 11:40 P40 - P40 148 25 01 43 12;35 P40 149 25 01 43 12:38 P40 150 27 01 43 14:48 P40 151 27 01 43 15:01 P40 152 27 01 43 15:05 P40 153 04 02 43 14:20 B17 154 04 02 43 14:25 B17 155 15 02 43 Spitfire 156 Spitfire 157 26 02 43 P40 158 P40 159 P40 160 P40 161 P40 162 27 02 43 Beaufighter - P-40 163 01 03 43 Spitfire 164 03 03 43 Spitfire 165 Spitfire 166 05 03 43 Spitfire 167 Spitfire 168 06 03 43 P 40 169 P 40 170 07 03 43 P 40 171 10 03 43 P40 172 23 03 43 P40 - P40/P-39 173 24 03 43 P40 174 P40 175/-? 25 03 43 A-20 Boston 175/-? 26 03 43 P40 176 16 04 43 Spitfire - 19 04 43 Spitfire 177 29 04 43 Spitfire 178 02 12 43 13:06 B-17 179 02 12 43 13:09 P-38 180 10 02 44 11:13 B-17 181 10 02 44 11:18 P-47 182 21 02 44 13:58 B-17 183 21 02 44 14:03 P-51 184 21 02 44 15:25 B-17 185 22 02 44 12:51 B-17 186 22 02 44 14:18 B-17 187 24 02 44 12:30 B-24 188 24 02 44 12:34 B-24 189 25 02 44 13:30 B-17 HSS eV 25 02 44 13:43 B-17 eV 190 25 02 44 14:45 B-17 HSS 191 25 02 44 14:55 B-24 192 3 03 44 11:40 P-51 193 6 03 44 12:00 B-17 194 6 03 44 12:10 B-17 195 6 03 44 14:45 B-17 196 29 03 44 13:25 P-51 197 29 03 44 13:35 P-51 198 08 04 44 13:50 B-24 199 11 04 44 10:59 B-17 200 22 04 44 20:08 B-24 201 29 04 44 10:56 P-47 202 29 04 44 10:59 B-24 203 07 08 44 14:40 P-47 204 01 01 45 09:23 Typhoon 205 01 01 45 09:25 Typhoon 206 19 03 45 P-51 207 21 03 45 B-24 208 24 03 45 B-24 209 24 03 45 P-51 - 27 03 45 P-47 - 27 03 45 P-47 - 27 03 45 P-47 210 04 04 45 P-51 211 09 04 45 B-26 212 B-26 213 12 04 45 B-26 214 18 04 45 P-47 215 P-47 216 19 04 45 P-51 217 P-51 218 27 04 45 P-47 219 P-47 220 29 04 45 P-47 221 29 04 45 Mosquito |
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
204,205 It was by Dora9
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
As I remember "The Luftwaffe's Last Hope" book confirm that Bär flew Fw 190D during "Bodenplatte".
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total
"Six Months To Oblivion" reports it as an A-9. Clarification, anyone?
Don |
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