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Old 22nd September 2005, 09:31
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SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

I found an information that SB2C pilots scored 44 victories.
The most succesfull pilot should be Lt. Robert "Zekie" Parker, later killed by a kamikaze attack.
Does anybody know Parker's total score and names and scores of other succesfull pilots?
Do exist the photos or 3D drawing of Parker's Helldiver?

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Old 20th January 2018, 21:22
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

...I'm interested in the score of the highest-scoring Helldiver pilot, too.

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Old 21st January 2018, 15:43
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

No precise idea, but you can find a daily chronology of USN claims in WWII there:
http://www.ww2f.com/threads/today-in...r.4493/page-16

For example, on 24 June 1944 "a VB-2 SB2C is credited with 1 B5N" among other kills.
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

Hello,

I think Barrett Tillman's book
https://www.amazon.de/Helldiver-Airc...elldiver+units
reveals that Parker scored 3 kills.

This website indicates a total for the Helldiver of 44.
http://acepilots.com/planes/helldiver.html
Were all of these kills scored in the PTO ?

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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

...(and not in the CBI) ?
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

There is an Osprey publication "Helldivers of World War 2" with just a few more names.


Lt Cdr Arthur L. Downing (VB-14, USS Wasp) with 1.5 victories and gunners ARM3/c E.J. Elias (also VB-14) and ARM3/c S.E. Wallace (VB-17) with each 2 confirmed.



There is a squadron breakdown of the 44 claims.


VB-18 (12), VB-19 (11), VB-14 (4.5), VB-17 (4), VB-2 (3), VB-8 (3), VB-15 (2), VB-11 (2), VB-7 (1), VB-80 (1) and VB-13 (0.5).



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Old 14th February 2020, 14:22
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

Credits to SB2C drivers and backseaters:

LT Robert Brownwell Parker // VB-19 // 3.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LT Allen Lee Lewis // VB-14 // 2.166 // 0.000 // 1.666
LTJG Samuel Thomas Elway // VB-14 // 2.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG Melvin Antoni Mor // VB-14 // 2.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG R E Lee Duncan Jr // VB-19 // 1.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
LCDR Arthur Latimer Downing // VB-14 // 1.166 // 0.000 // 0.166
LTJG William Peter Colleran // VB-7 // 1.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
LTJG Seaman Grubin // VB-14 // 1.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
LTJG Charles Richard Draper // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LTJG Benjamin Franklin Emge Jr // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LTJG M H Richey // VB-2 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG John Hanley Weber // VB-8 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG Jack Bion Linn // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG George Glumac // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG Franklin Eugene Schumacher // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG Daniel Wirt Baker // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG D W Logan // VB-11 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG Clifford Jordan // VB-15 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG Charles Forrest Fisher // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG Billie Burke Duncan // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LT Robert Dean Niemeyer // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LT Elmer Clarence Namoski // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
LT Edward Allen Heflin // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ENS William Hugh Harris Jr // VB-17 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ENS William Harrison Bingham // VB-14 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ENS Richard Buckner Blaydes // VB-2 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ENS Edward Emerson Hendrickson // VB-80 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ENS H E Tull // VB-2 // 0.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
ENS Cornelius Joseph Haggerty // VB-14 // 0.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
CDR Richard Lucius Kibbe // VB-13 // 0.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG P Garbler // VB-2 // 0.333 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG J F Schaber // VB-2 // 0.333 // 0.000 // 0.000
LTJG D T Galvin // VB-2 // 0.333 // 0.000 // 0.000
ENS Robert Ohm // VB-14 // 0.166 // 0.000 // 0.166
ENS Leroy Lester Laz // VB-14 // 0.166 // 0.000 // 0.166
ENS Judson Harvey Doane // VB-14 // 0.166 // 0.000 // 0.166
ENS David Courtland Hunicke // VB-14 // 0.166 // 0.000 // 0.166
LTJG Thompson Shea // VB-8 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
LT William Edward McBride // VB-19 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
LTJG Cornelius Joseph Haggerty // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 2.000
LTJG James Eldon Starkel // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.500
LTJG L T Naroness // VB-8 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LTJG J R Amussen // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LTJG Harwood Stevens Sharp // VB-8 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LTJG F L Braunoff // VB-8 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LTJG A B Fite // VB-11 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LT Leslie James Ward // VB-8 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ENS V E Flame // VB-8 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ENS Dale W Thompson // VB-17 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ENS Unsworth // VB-2 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
LTJG Henry Evans Smith // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
LTJG F B Mathews // VB-15 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
LT John Magee // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
ENS James Otis McIntire // VB-8 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
ARM3c Stanley E Wallace // VB-17 // 2.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM3c Peter J Trombina // VB-15 // 1.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
RadioElec Raymond B Bailey // VB-8 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM3c Ernest Joseph Elias // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM2c Lenny Bay // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM2c Joseph Serensis Jr // VB-14 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM2c James Francis Burns // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM1c William O Haynes Jr // VB-17 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM1c M A Patillo // VB-2 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM1c John Abbott Puryear // VB-14 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
AMM3c W T Farrow // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
AMM3c C F Curries // VB-8 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
AMM3c C E Cosby // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
AMM1c J G Pope // VB-18 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM3c John Allston Hendrick // VB-19 // 0.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM3c E T McElroy // VB-2 // 0.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM2c E D Kufeldt // VB-11 // 0.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM2c A F Pierce // VB-11 // 0.500 // 0.000 // 0.000
ARM3c W F Hayatake // VB-2 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM3c R J Brammer // VB-3 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM3c Albert L McPhee // VB-17 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM2c William J Campbell // VB-17 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM2c O'Neill // VB-2 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM2c James W O'Brien // VB-8 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM1c Wilks // VB-2 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM1c James R Langiotti // VB-8 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM1c H E Borja // VB-13 // 0.000 // 1.000 // 0.000
ARM3c W K Kirts // VB-13 // 0.000 // 0.500 // 0.000
ARM3c L B Widing // VB-13 // 0.000 // 0.500 // 0.000
ARM3c C S Christiansen // VB-13 // 0.000 // 0.500 // 0.000
ARM2c W J Fike // VB-13 // 0.000 // 0.500 // 0.000
ARM2c W D Crook // VB-12 // 0.000 // 0.500 // 0.000
ARM1c W F Hale // VB-12 // 0.000 // 0.500 // 0.000
ARM3c Walter F Kelly // VB-15 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ARM3c Rober I Lemieux // VB-15 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ARM3c Maurice E Cahill // VB-17 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ARM3c J J Betsekas // VB-11 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ARM3c Edwin W DeGraff // VB-17 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ARM3c Charles Frederick Studley // VB-9 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ARM2c George John // VB-15 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
ARM2c Earl William Ward // VB-9 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
AOM3c D C Killary // VB-2 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 1.000
RadioElec Robert N Varonette // VB-8 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
ARM2c Robert Lawrence Dorrington // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
ARM2c Robert Dean Borrison // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
ARM2c John Abbott Puryear // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
ACRM Robert Cassort Runyon // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.500
ARM3c G Bottrell // VB-2 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.333
ARM2c A E Albertalli // VB-2 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.333
ARM1c M A Pattillo // VB-2 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.333
ARM3c Alvin Matthew Pratt // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.200
ARM2c Robert Dale McClintock // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.200
ARM2c Nathan Alonzo Lathe Jr // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.200
ARM2c George Gorham Wahrer // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.200
ARM2c Daniel Seymour DeVoto // VB-14 // 0.000 // 0.000 // 0.200

Totals 52.995 // 17.00 // 32.495; Pilots // 35.995 // 4.000 // 18.996; Gunners // 17.000 // 13.000 // 13.499
These are drawn from the research of Frank Olynyk (thanks, Frank!). The BuAer combat statistics cites a total of 43, but does not address probables or damaged.
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

Good afternoon Leendert,

that's interesting.
Can you tell me who was the gunner of Robert Parker ?

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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?

Taking the figure of 44 claims produces a victory ratio for the SB2C in air-to-air encounters of about 3:1.

Incidentally, on going through all the action reports I came up with a total of 43.5, but as the aircraft was primarily a bomber I don't think that the precise figure is all that important.
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Good evening twocee,

yes, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Do you know the name of the gunner of Robert Parker ?

Have a nice weekend,

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