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Lw claims Far North Russia 1941
Hi guys
I sincerely hope that you and your families are well - and stay that way. Since some of the many experts on this forum may have time on their hands, I wonder if any can add/amend/comment on my self-compiled list of claims made by 1./JG77, 13./JG77, 14./JG77, Z-JG77 & Stab/ZG76 during 1941? I have used all known sources (available to me). The * denotes speculated educated guess, based on my research. Apologies for the untidy tabulation! Unable to rectify. Any snippet of information appreciated. 24/6/41 1./JG77 Carganico*(7) SB 25/6/41 14./JG77 Lesch(1) I-16 Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (2-5) 2 x I-16, 2 x I-153 26/6/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (11) I-153 27/6./41 1./JG77 Laun SB Z/JG77 Schlossstein (1) I-16 28/6/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (12-13) 2 x GST Villing (1) SB Salwender *(1-2) I-153 Kappler (1) I-16 Unidentified?? 3 ??? 29/6/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (12-14) 2 x GST +1 1./JG77 Carganico* (8-19) 2 x MBR-2 14./JG77 Lesch (2) I-16 14./JG77 Mahlkuch (1-2) 2 x I-153 14./JG77 Loijewski (4) I-153 14./JG77 Stiglmeir (1) I-153 1/7/41 Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (6-7) 2 x I-15 Stab/ZG76 Kriegel*(1-2) 2 x I-15 Stab/ZG76 Hoffmann*(1) I-15 14/JG77 Stiglmeir (2-3) 2 x I-15 2/7/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (15) 1 Villing (2) GST 1./JG77 Salwender* (3) SB 1./JG77 Carganico* (10) I-153 Unidentified?? 1 4/7/41 Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (8-10) 2 x I-16, MiG-3 5/7/41 Stab./ZG76 Schaschke (11) I-16 Z/JG77 Weyergang (11) KiA 7/7/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (16-17) 2 x ftr Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (12) I-16 8/7/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (18) ftr 1./JG77 Unidentified?? 2 ftrs 9/7/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (19) SB 1./JG77 Carnagico* (11) SB 10/7/41 Unidentified?? 1 11/7/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (20) 1 1./JG77 Carganico* (12) GST 1./JG77 Villing (3) GST 1./JG77 Laun (2) SB Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (13-14) 2 x I-16 13/7/41 I./JG77 Carganico* (13) 1 Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (15-17) 3 x I-16 16/7/41 Stab./ZG76 Schaschke (18-19) 2 x I-16 17/7/41 14./JG77 Mahlkuch (3) ftr Unidentified?? ftr, rece a/c 19/7/41 Z./JG77 Schlosstein (2) I-16 1./JG77 Carnagico* (14-15) 2 Stiglmeir*(4) 1 21/7/41 Z./JG77 Schlosstein (3) SB Munding (1) SB Brandis (4) SB 22/7/41 Z./JG77 Brandis (5) I-16 Unidentified?? 1 24/7/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (21) I-16 Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (18) 1-153 Kreigel* (3) 2x I-153 Unidentified?? I-153 25/7/41 Z./JG77 Brandis (6) I-16 Carganico* (16) GST Villing (4) 2 x GST 27/7/41 14./JG77 Mahlkuch *(4) SB 1./JG77 Salwender* (4) SB 1./JG77 Carnagico* (17) SB Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (19) MiG-3 28/7/41 Z./JG77 Franzisket (1) DB-3 29/7/41 Z./JG77 Munding (2) I-16 30/7/41 Z./JG77 Brandis (8) 2 Albacore Franzisket (3) 2 Albacore Schlosstein (3) Albacore Koch (1) Albacore 14./JG77 3 Hurricane, 2 Skua, 7 Albacore Mentzel* 3? Stiglmeir* (5-7? 3? Mahlkuch*(5-7?) 3? Kandziora* 3? 1./JG77 Dahmer (22) SB 1./JG77 Lehmann I-16 1./JG77 Unidentified?? SB 31/7/41 14/JG77 Unidentified?? Pe-2 1/8/41 1./JG77 Salwender* (4-6) 3 x I-153 2/8//41 1./JG77 Carnagico* (18) 1 1./JG77 Salwender* (7) I-16 I./JG77 Unidentified?? 1 4/8/41 Stab/ZG76 Schaschke (21) 2x I-301 (KiA) Kriegel (4) 1 Hoffmann (2) 1 14/JG77 Unidentified?? 2 5/8/41 1./JG77 Unidentified?? 1 6/8/41 14./JG77 Unidentified?? 4 9/8/41 14./JG77 Wolter (1) I-16 Unidentified?? 3 12/8/41 1./JG77 Carganico* (19) I-16 Salwender* (8/9) 2 x I-16 15/8/41 Stab/ZG76 Hoffmann (3) I-153 Stab/ZG76 Kriegel* (5) I-153 IV.JG77 Unidentified?? 5 ? 16/8/41 Z/JG77 Brandis (9) I-180 (Yak-7) 22/8/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (25) 1 23/8/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (26) 1 Mahlkuch (7) KiA 25/8/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (27-29) 3 x I-153 26/8/41 1./JG77 Villing* (6) 1 Salwender* (10) I-16 IV./JG77 Unidentified?? I-16 27/8/41 Stab/ZG76 Hoffmann (4) MBR-2 Unidentified?? MBR-2, 2 x I-16 31/8/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (29) 1 1./JG77 Salwender* (11-12) 2 I-16 1./JG77 Unidentified?? 2 1/9/41 Unidentified?? I-16 2/9/41 1./JG77 Carganico* (20) 1-16 10/9/41 Z/JG77 Dieterich I-153 Z/JG77 Schmidt I-153 Z/JG77 Schlossstein* (6) I-153 12/9/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (30) I-16 Muller (1) I-16 15/9/41 1./JG77 Muller (2) DB-3 1./JG77 Kappler (2) SB 1/JG77 Carganico* (21) 1 Z/JG77 Schlossstein* (7-8) 2 x I-16 Z/JG77 Brandis (10) I-16 Unidentified?? 3 (???) 16/9/41 Unidentified? Pe-2 17/9/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (31) I-153 1./JG77 Muller (3) I-153, DB-3 1./JG77 Salwender*(13-14) I-153, I-16 19/9/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (32) I-153 1./JG77 Salwender* (15-17) 3 x I-153 23/9/41 1./JG77 Kappler (3) Pe-2 1/JG77 Carganico* (22-23) 2 x SB 26/9/41 1/JG77 Carganico* (24) I-153 27/9/41 14.JG77 Lesch Hurricane 1./JG77 Muller (4) Hurricane 1./JG77 Salwender* (18-19) 2 Hurricanes 28/9/41 1./JG77 Muller (5) Pe-2 1./JG77 Dahmer (33) fighter Unidentified?? bomber, 2 fighters 6/10/41 1./JG77 Kappler (4) 1 Unidentified?? 3 12/10/41 1./JG77 Dahmer (34-36) 3 x SB Salwender* (20-21) 2 x SB Villing* (8) I-153 Unidentified?? 2 x I-16 17/10/41 Unidentified?? Pe-2 20/10/41 14./JG77 Lesch I-16 Dahn DB-3, I-16 24/10/41 Z/JG77 Brandis(11-12) I-153, I-16 Z/JG77 Koch (2) I-16 Z./ZG77 Weißenberger (1) I-153 Z./JG77 Fiedler (1-2) 2 x I-153 Z./JG77 Reichel (1) I-153 25/10/41 Z/JG77 Brandis (13) Hurricane 26/10/41 14./JG77 Weinitschke (1) I-153 215 e/a credited by 1 November 2/11/41 1./JG77 Muller (6-7) 2 SB 1./JG77 Salwender* (22-24) 3 SB 1./JG77 Unidentified?? I-153 4/11/41 1./JG77 Muller (8) I-16 8/11/41 13./JG77 Ehrler SB (believe He111 in error) 14./JG77 Mentzel Che-2 14./JG77 Bauer Che-2 10/11/41 14./JG77 Koch (1) Pe-2 14/11/41 14./JG77 Jakobi (4) I-153 Unidentified?? 2 x I-15 17/11/41 13./JG77 Schafer (6) 2 x I-16 29/11/41 Z/JG77 Brandis (14) I-18 (MiG-1) 13./JG77 Kersten I-15 3/12/41 13./JG77 Hammel I-16 11/12/41 14./JG77 Jakobi (5) I-153 15/12/41 14./JG77 Jakobi (6-7) 2 x Hurricane 14./JG77 Hesse (1) Hurricane 17/12/41 14./JG77 Jakobi (8) Hurricane Weinitschke (2) Hurricane Widowitz Hurricane 20/12/41 14./JG77 Dahn SB Many thanks for your time and expertise. Fingers crossed! Cheers Stay safe Brian |
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Re: Lw claims Far North Russia 1941
Brian,
Obviously no Hurricane loses on the 27.09.41. It was only 81 Sqn flying operations this day. (134 were training). Yes combat but no damage or loses. regards, Mark |
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Re: Lw claims Far North Russia 1941
Good to hear from you, Mark
You once indicated that you have note of many of Carganico's claims. Are you able to add or amend what I have listed? Thanks. Take care, stay safe. Brian |
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Re: Lw claims Far North Russia 1941
Thanks for this list, Brian!
I'm try to research this war on Far North in 1941 too. As i only started to dig deeper, i can add little to you facts, but i have many common data for period before November 1941. This is claims in general, without personality. Maybe they'll be useful for you. 24.6.41 1 bomber 25.6.41 1 claim 27.6.41 2 SB near Rovaniemi 2 fighters probably over Murmashi 28.6.41 1 claim for Me.110 over Niva, 2 claims Me.109 over Murmashi, 6 claims for Me.109 places unknown 29.6.41 8 claims 1.7.41 5 fighters 2.7.41 6 claims 3.7.41 1 fighter (I-153?) - or 4.7.41? 5.7.41 1 I-16 probably 7.7.41 1 fighter over Murmashi, 1 fighter over Shongui 8.7.41 Ofw. Dahmer from 1./JG 77 made his 20 claim 9.7.41 2 bombers 10.7.41 1 fighter 11.7.41 6 claims 13.7.41 4 claims over Shongui 16.7.41 3 claims 17.7.41 2 fighters and 1 recon. +2 planes wirksam beschossen. 19.7.41 5 claims (fighters?) 21.7.41 2 claims (fighters near Warlamowo?) 22.7.41 2 claims 23.7.41 2 planes (fighters?) damaged 24.7.41 3 I-16 and I-153 + 3 damaged 25.7.41 1 claim Me.110 26.7.41 No claims 27.7.41 1 SB, in all 3 claims 28.7.41 1 claim + 1 damaged 29.7.41 1 fighter 30.741 23 claims 31.7.41 No claims 1.8.41 1 claim 2.8.41 3 fighters 3.8.41 No claims 4.8.41 6 claims 5.8.41 1 claim Me.109 + 4 damaged |
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Re: Lw claims Far North Russia 1941
Hi Igorr
Great to hear from you again - we corresponded briefly regarding the Weyergang photos. I've just been reading your excellent History of Z/JG5 (and the earlier Z-Staffel) on the sk.16 site. Do you plan to publish? May I use some of the material, please? Anything used will be fully acknowledged. You may know that I am writing about the Far North and PQ convoys 1941-42. Due to the virus, publication date has been re-sheduled for early next year. Our mutual friend Valery Smirnov is now a co-author. I look forward to hearing from you. Stay safe Brian (PLEASE RESPOND TO: briancullauthor@gmail.com) Last edited by BrianC; 27th April 2020 at 14:13. |
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