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Old 2nd November 2011, 14:43
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

Why does it have to be a daylight claim ??
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Old 2nd November 2011, 16:22
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

Hello Delmenhorst,

You are right: it doesn't neccessarily have been a daylight victory but...

1) for a nocturnal claim one would expect that it was claimed by one of the many Mosquito's chasing around and Mark Huxtable's magnificent work about Mosquito claims gives no hits (yet)
2) a lucky rear gunner's claim is also possible but I have no knowledge about their successes in this phase of the war. Before seeking the proverbial needle in the haystack, I tried option 3
3) giving the limitations of no 1 and 2, it was worth trying - even if that sounds pretty desperate - to hear if someone had an 'Eureka' moment about He219 claims by daylight.

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Old 2nd November 2011, 17:09
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

Have we looked in NJ War diaries Vol 2 ?
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Old 3rd November 2011, 19:27
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

yes
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Old 7th November 2011, 10:19
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

Hello Carsten,

At the moment I see not many other opportunities to identify which He219 crashed at the northern coast of Denmark, but I will do my best to help where possible: as the wreck is sometimes covered by sand and sometimes not, I hope that a moment comes that the remains could be salvaged for further inspection and/or (partial) restauration because the sole survivor is in the USA.

As it seems now, the parts which could lead to its identification are either missing or not accessible, so Plan B would be identifying the subtype first, I guess (unless you have knowledge about this plane, I haven't).

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Old 7th November 2011, 17:38
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

Hi Marcel

We have a couple of combats at night in 1945 where the British claims does not correspond with German information.

I think that Jörn and I will spend an evening together and go through them. I am right now very, very buzy at work and do not have access to all my files. It will take me a couple of weeks.
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

ULTRA message about the He 219 lost on 21 May 1944, file HW5/488, message CX/MSS/R.195(C) para. 49A ...
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

Hi Nick,
That is the incident mentioned in post # 9, date and location match.
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That is the incident mentioned in post # 9, date and location match.
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Hi. I thought that the purpose of the Heinkel's flight was interesting. I don't think I've seen that mentioned before.
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Re: Allied daylight claims of a He219 ?

From Remp's book on the HE-219, the 21/5/44 HE-219 A-0 loss was wrk nm 190107 G9+FL at 1700 hrs., although he lists the crew Tampke and Tanbs as WIA.

The divers have resumed descending to the HE-219 off the Danish coast, and went down with a side scan sonar device to search for the tail. He reports that there was zero visibility in the water and unfortunately the sonar device failed, so they ascended without results and now are awaiting the sonar to be repaired. He also said is was very cold 2-3 degrees C.
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