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Old 24th July 2013, 20:02
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date of some US losses

Hi,

date unknown P-51D 44-13652 361 374 2nd Lt Bosyk KFA
date unknown P-47D 42-75424 361 375 1st Lt Duncan KIA
date unknown P-51D 44-14520 361 376 1st Lt Harris KFA
date unknown P-51D 44-13852 LC-D 20 77 Lt. W. Kuemmerle Force-landed near Paris
date unknown P-38 42-66739 475 433 MIA
date unknown P-40E 40-667 lost in action over Java early 1942.
date unknown P-40E 40-674 condemned Aug 31, 1943 lost in action over Java early 1942.
date unknown P-40E 40-675 condemned Aug 31, 1943 lost in action over Java early 1942.

can anyone help with the dates?
or add some info.....
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Old 24th July 2013, 21:34
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Re: date of some US losses

Good evening GMichalski !

For P-47, USAAF s/n 42-75424 take August 8th, 1944, 361st FG
MACR # 3630.

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Old 24th July 2013, 22:40
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Re: date of some US losses

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Good evening GMichalski !

For P-47, USAAF s/n 42-75424 take August 8th, 1944, 361st FG
MACR # 3630.

Best regards !

Horst Weber
Horst ??? the 361st FG converted to Mustangs in May, 1944. The only 8th AF FG w/47s were 56, 78, 353 and 356 FG after May 1944

MACR 3630 should be late March, early 1944 and those dates could belong to the 361st.. so, looking, looking

April 8, 1944 Lt Albert Duncan, 375FS/361FG KIA in dogfight near Lenbauch
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Re: date of some US losses

Hello,
Details
P-47D-11-RE
42-75424
MACR 3630
Date:8th April 1944.
Pilot: Albert C. Duncan. KIA.
a/c crashed following a dog fight with two E/A's about 600yds East of Berends Farm, Alte Picardie near Georgsdorf. (ref:Vol 3 of Losses of the 8th & 9th Air Forces).

P38H-5-LO
42-66739
475th FG, 433rd FS
MACR 2051
Date:16th January 1944.
Pilot: Richard L. Hancock.KIA.
20m West of Alexishafen, on one engine and spun in.

P-51's
(1) 44-13652
361st FG 374FS
Date:29th August 1944.
Pilot: Harry G. Bosyk. Killed.
A/c broke up in a training flight and crashed at Tower House Farm, Middleton, Norfolk.
(2)44-13852 "LC-D"
20thFG, 77th FS.
Date: 17th September 1944.
Pilot: William F. Kuemmerle.
Force-landed non op flight Pohay,SW of Paris. France.
(3)44-14520
361FG, 376FS
Date: August 5th 1945.
Pilot: Curtis S. Harris, Killed.
A take off accident in the UK.

P-40E's
40-667 -Lost Java early 1942.
40-674 and 675 - Condemned August 31st 1943. But also reported as Lost in action Java early 1942.

Hope this helps
Alex

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Re: date of some US losses

P-40's were part of 17th Pursuit Squadron (Provisional), shipped to Philippines, but convoy diverted to Australia.
Some 18 P-40's formed part of the PS. Stories here http://forum.armyairforces.com/m/tm.aspx?m=56355 and here http://www.adf-serials.com.au/research/Part3-P40.pdf

Armyairforces speaks of some losses over Java, so 40-674 and 40-675 may be among them. 40-667 apparently written off after ground incident?

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Horst ??? the 361st FG converted to Mustangs in May, 1944. The only 8th AF FG w/47s were 56, 78, 353 and 356 FG after May 1944

MACR 3630 should be late March, early 1944 and those dates could belong to the 361st.. so, looking, looking

April 8, 1944 Lt Albert Duncan, 375FS/361FG KIA in dogfight near Lenbauch
Sorry !

I'd mixed up day/month.

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hi,
how much information!!
many thanks,
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Re: date of some US losses

hi,
you know the dates of these:

date unknown P-38 unknown 14 FG 48FS Garris, Benjamin was shot down over Salerno, Italy on his 14th mission. Wounded in this action he bailed out

date unknown P-38 unknown O-431143 14FG 49FS Moore, Gail E. Jr. KIA Plane apparently hit by flak dove into the ground and exploded

date unknown P-38 unknown 14FG 49FS Knapp, Ralph L. S/d Rtn The aircraft were bombing Faid Pass in the mountains south of Tunis, Tunisia. He fired at the group of bombers, destroying one and catching the attention of the German ME-110 fighters escorting the bombers. One of the ME-110s hit his plane, forcing him to crash land in the desert.

many thanks,
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Adolf Galland

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