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StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
Good morning to all.
Does someone do have a crash or loss recorded for a Ju 87 Stuka from StG 2 "Immelmann" (code T6 clearly visible) that crash landed (probably hit on the engine or which suffered engine failure) on the 8 July 1942 in Russland? This machine was later salvaged or recuperated by the Germans. Am trying to determine the other code after T6+ and if possible the crewmembers of the machine. Adriano |
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Re: StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
Hello Adriano,
in the GQM loss returns three losses of StG 2 aircraft on 8 July 1942 are listed: 2./StG 2 Ort: Bykowo, Jägerbeschuss, Ju 87 D-3 2440 60% F Lt Buchholz, Leonhard verletzt Bf N.N. unverletzt 3./StG 2 Auftrag: Worowoje, Ursache unbekannt, Ju 87 D-1 1089 T6+GL 100% F Uffz Sandmayer, Hermann unverletzt zurück Bf Uffz Schönberger, Maximilian unverletzt zurück II./StG 2 Ort: Bykowo, Ursache: Bombenwurf, Ju 87 D-1 2433 100% Regards Leo |
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Re: StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
The first loss mentioned by Rottler was coded 'T6+DK'.
Ju 87D-3, 2440, Buchholz, Ltn. Bernhard, , I., 2., St.G. 2, , T6+DK, , , 08-Jul-42, WIA due to enemy fighters., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10; Hazard, La StG. 2, I, p.283, , Bykowo, 60%, F, , , |
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Re: StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
Jim and Leo,
My gratitude for the information about those 3 losses. Without both of you I wouldn't know about them. Sadly I am still unable yet to scan the photograph and check the full code of the machine. However it looks like the first one (60% damaged) fills what I can see on the photo. The machine was recovered by a LW team and heavily camouflaged with trees. There was another shot showing it being recovered by a truck, but I lost this one. The date is clearly 8 July 1942 and we can not see too much damages on it...When I will be able to fix the PC where I do have the Photoshop installed, I shall post the image here. However, we can not discount a machine recovered on the 8 July but damaged on the previous day... A. |
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Re: StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
STIG pointed me out two (02) Ju 87 R-2 that made "Notlandung" (emergency landings) from the III Gruppe, which were:
a) Ju 87 R-2, werknummer 6008 near Tschaschniki b) Ju 87 R-2, wekrnummer 6003 (*from 8 Staffel) near Lepel (this one with engine damaged). Is there MORE information about those machines codes and crews? A. |
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Re: StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
WNr.6003 - 21-Jul-41
WNr.6008 - 8-Jul-41. Ju 87R-2, 6008, BRÜCKER, Hptm. Heinrich, , Stab III., St.G. 2, , T6+AD, KC+YZ, , 08-Jul-41, Gr.Kdr. Notlandung. Flew this machine from 18-Jun thru this date., F RK., Lfl.2/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; FB H. Brücker; Hazard, La StG. 2, I, p.279, , bei Tschaschniki, 100%, F, Bf Stfw. Lehmann, , Weser Flugzeugbau GmbH Bremen-Lemwerder Both listed as 100% losses, yet both had later recorded incidents. |
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Re: StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
In the GQM loss returns (BA Freiburg version) the reasons for the losses were classified:
Ju 87 R-2 6003 Notlandung infolge Motorschadens, loss category 5 = destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft on an operational flight Ju 87 R-2 6008 Notlandung, loss category 20 = destroyed without enemy action on an operational flight. Regards Leo |
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Re: StG.2 loss (crash) on 8 July 1942 - Russland
Jim P and Leo
Again my gratitude for your kind corrections and information. So 8 July 1941 for the two R-2 machines. I shall correct the dates. The photo do have some caption behind written in German, but sadly the computer in which I do have Photoshop and other programs is broken down. As soon as I am able to scan it I shall put here. Most humbly and GRATEFUL, Adriano |
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