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Search Spitfire 52 FG
Hello
I search some information( name pilot, mission, crash, ) for three SPITFIRE serial NA 883. EF 647. JK 160. shot down the 9 February 1944 Thank you for your help jean paul |
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Re: Search Spitfire 52 FG
Jean Paul
The recent history of 52FG “Spitfires and Yellow Tail Mustangs” by Tom Ivie and Paul Ludwig states: "9 February 1944 turned out to be a bad day for the 4thFS as a dive-bombing mission resulted in the loss of three pilots. The first air battle took place over the harbour at Nice in France when the flight of four Spitfires led by Lt Henry Montgomery was jumped by Fw190s as they were pulling up from their dive bombing attacks. Widely separated and under attack at all times the Spitfire pilots were unable to aid each other. First to fall was F/O James H Montgomery Jr whose aircraft was last seen going down in flames. He would become a PoW. Next F/O Bob Hoover’s Spitfire was hit and he bailed out and went in the water three miles off Nice harbour. Two enemy speed boats were observed to go out after him. The Germans then turned and pursued the other two Spitfires, but Henry Montgomery and Bradley Smith managed to elude the Fw190s after desperately manoeuvring for 25 minutes.As far as I can see there is no other info in the book that enables these names to be connected up with your serial numbers. Steve |
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The only point (at the moment) is that I think it should be MA883 NOT NA883 Also see http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/s.../44FebMACR.htm For the MACR numbers |
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Re: Search Spitfire 52 FG
Hi,
it seems they were all shot down by Ofw.S.Lemke from 1/JG2. Regards Robert |
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Hello Steve, Paul, Robert
Thank you very much for the answer and your help Steve Thank you if you have the serial with the name of pilot jean paul |
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Re: Search Spitfire 52 FG
JP - From Bob Hoover's book " Forever Flying " page 64.
A/C Sitfire Vc # MA 833 code WD-R. After downing FW - 190 , he was bounced by 2 FW - 190s. Two of his Squadron Mates turned tail and ran for home - they were punished for it. Hoover was shot down by Siegried "Bamm" Lemke. he bailed out , landed in water, picked up by German ship , POW Luft 1. Lempke also shot down Pilots Bishop and Montgomery. Cheers, Mike |
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EF647 Vc 14-4-43 82MU 26-4-43 Fort Jersey 11-5-43 Casablanca 30-5-43 Malta 1-8-43 NAfrica 30-10-43 12/52USAAF 30-11-43 lost France 9-2-44
JK160 Vc 29-1-43 222MU 10-2-43 Fort Hudson 20-2-43 Gibraltar 7-3-43 NWAfrica 31-3-43 12/52USAAF 31-12-43 lost France 9-2-44 I’m puzzled about the next entry MA883VcT 8-8-43 222MU 29-8-43 Cardinal Gibbons 3-9-43 Casablanca 20-9-43 NAfrican ASC 31-10-43 USAAF 12th AF 31-12-43 [lost over France 9-2-44] Tipped up during engine run Gaudo 4-3-45 www.luftwaffe.cz/lemkes.html Claimed 4 x Spitfires on that day Entries 16, 17, 18, 19 Kind regards Ross |
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Spitfire International places Montgomery in EF647.
/John E. |
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Re: Search Spitfire 52 FG
The entry for MA883 means that there is conflicting information about the fate of this aircraft. One of the two is a mis-recorded serial.
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