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Old 16th May 2019, 12:30
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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

So...Bălți is a city in Moldova......what country was that in during WWII?

Was it Moldova, Romania, Ukraine or Bessarabia (USSR)?

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Old 16th May 2019, 12:37
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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

So...checking Larry's fine works on Airfields.....

1. For the purpose of this reference work, “Romania” generally means the territory that was located within the boundaries of Romania immediately following the so-called Vienna Award of 30 August 1940 whereby Romania, acting under Axis pressure, ceded the majority of Transylvania to Hungary. The list does include Moldavia but does not include the airfields in Bessarabia and Bukovina, which were seized by Russia in 1918:
1.1 Moldavia (Moldova, Moldau): a pre-war Romanian province bordered on the east by the Prut (Pruth) River.
1.2 Bessarabia, a province of Romania since 1918-19, seized by Russia on 27 June 1940 and not recovered by Romania until June 1941. These airfields are listed with Russia.
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Balti (UKR/BESSARBIA): see Russia and Ukraine Airfields.

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Old 16th May 2019, 12:53
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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

I wonder if this could be the aircraft?

23/03/1944 - 10./TG 2 - Balti - Kamenez-Podolsk - Erdbeschuß - Ju 52 /3m

Anyone got a copy of "From Barbarossa to Odessa" Vol. 1.?

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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

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I wonder if this could be the aircraft?

23/03/1944 - 10./TG 2 - Balti - Kamenez-Podolsk - Erdbeschuß - Ju 52 /3m

Anyone got a copy of "From Barbarossa to Odessa" Vol. 1.?

/Ian

Not exactly Summer.


I have better:
21/07/1941 KGr.zbV 104; Balti; Feindbeschuß; Ju 52/3m WNr.2996, Bruch 100%. Crew unknown. With thanks to Michael Balss.

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Franck.
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Old 16th May 2019, 14:18
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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

Cheers Franck,


It looks like that could be the one!!


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Old 16th May 2019, 16:33
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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

Since everyone is pretty certain the first letter is a "B" rather than an "S", then I guess "Balti" is the one. There were 10 airfields, field airstrips and landing grounds around Balti by late fall 1944, but the one below was the one being used by the Luftwaffe in summer 1941:

Balti (RUSS/UKR) (a.k.a. Bălţi, Beltsy) (47 45 15 N – 27 55 05 E)
General: small city in north-central Bessarbia (today Moldova) 255 km NW of Odessa, 160 km ESE of Chernivtsi (Tschernowitz, Cernăuţi) and 71 km NNE of Iaşi/Romania.

Balti III (RUSS/UKR) (a.k.a. Balti/Ost, Balti/East, Bălţi, Beltsy) (ZNr. 10-1380) (c. 47 46 25 N – 27 57 38 E)
General: field airstrip (Feldflugplatz) 255 km NW of Odessa, 71 km NNE of Iaşi/Romania and 3.85 km NE of Balti city center. Rated for fighters, dive-bombers and other single-engine aircraft. History: existed pre-June 1941 and was/is considered the most important of the airfields around Balti during World War II, almost certainly because of the aircraft repair shops and assembly buildings adjacent to the airfield. Surface and Dimensions: firm grass surface on clay subsoil with the S end somewhat marshy. Measured approx. 1000 x 1000 meters in 1941 and Dec 43 and then enlarged to 1360 x 1300 meters (1485 x 1420 yards) in 1944. Infrastructure: no infrastructure in 1941, Dec 43 or Jul 44. It used the infrastructure available at the adjacent repair and assembly site as well as civilian buildings along the W boundary. Dispersal: there were 41 splinter-proof aircraft shelters by 3 Jul 44, according to aerial photos. Defenses: there were 6 Flak positions on 3 Jul 44, each with 2 to 6 guns.
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22 Jun 41: Soviet VVS 55 IAP based here. Balti airfields attacked by III./KG 27 and other elements of IV. Fliegerkorps – claimed 40 Russian aircraft destroyed on the ground and hits scored on motor vehicles, barracks. Tent camps as well as 2 fuel dumps.
23 Jun 41: Balti I bombed by III./KG 27 – claimed 15 to 20 aircraft destroyed on the ground.
7-9 Jul 41: Balti captured by 3 Romanian infantry divisions (5, 13 and 14) and now in Axis hands. The airfields were said by them to be in terrible condition and situated on very marshy and wet terrain.
14 Jul 41: bombed by Soviet 45 SBAP and 146 IAP – claimed 12 Axis aircraft destroyed on the ground and violent fires started.
21 Jul 41: Balti/Ost attacked by fighters from 55 IAP and then by 8 x “DB-3s” – 11 x Ju 87s from St.G. 77 and 2 x Bf 109s from III./JG 77 damaged on the ground, plus 1 x Ju 52 assigned to JG 77 destroyed.
23 Jul 41: strafed again by 55 IAP – claimed 13 Axis planes left burning on the ground.
[Sources: chronologies; AFHRA, BA-MA (incl. RL 9/70); NARA incl. T-321 roll 239/OKL 903; OKL Flugplatzatlas; PRO/NA; Bernád, Dénes, Dmitriy Karlenko and Jean-Louis Roba - From Barbarossa to Odessa – The Luftwaffe and Axis Allies Strike South-East: June-October 1941, Hinckley (U.K.): Ian Allan/Midland Publishing, 2008. ISBN: (10) 1 85780 273 X web site ww2.dk; NARA Aerial Photographs at College Park/MD (27.6.44, 3.7.44)]
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Old 16th May 2019, 17:01
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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

Thanks Larry,

That coincides with the info that Franck posted for 21.7.1941....Dénes confirmed the photo was taken summer 1941.

So...that means the guy this photo belonged to was with 13/K.G. z.b.V. 1 at the time...

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Old 16th May 2019, 17:07
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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

Larry and Franck,

Does someone do have the codes for that werknummer 2996 ?

Maybe this is indeed the machine quoted by De Zeng "plus 1 x Ju 52 assigned to JG 77 destroyed" that you matched the werknummer and unit (KGr.zbV 104), Franck...

Amazing thread indeed...

Did Denès Bernard identifyed the machine and unit on his published book ? Denès, can you give us a glimpse of what you wrote for that particular action or picture ?

Congratulations Ian...amazing thread.

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Re: Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

Adriano,

Denès will contact me later with the info....

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I don't have any codes for the aircraft unfortunately.....
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