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Old 9th November 2018, 16:26
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Re: Flt Sgt Jammy Payne 501 Squadron 1940

Several years ago I was fortunate to borrow the B Flight Flying Log and nominal roll for the period March 1939 until late 1940. I was also given a snap of Flt Sgt A A Payne and 'Ginger' Lacey in a billet, allegedly at Tangmere (?) so they probably knew one another before the squadron went to France? (Sorry, I was asked not to pass it on by the originator) I asked both Minnie and Sheila Lacey where the name 'Jammy' came from but they were unable to recall.

Flt Sgt Payne is first mentioned in the B Flt log on 9 May 1940 flying L1949 for 35 mins. He may have been on A Flt previously but the log only provides the basic info, ie, no duty, except for pencil notes in the margin. The following day (10 May) he is mentioned twice: L1991 SD-R 1.40 hrs and L1866 SD-P 1.00 hrs.

On 11 May 1940 he flew L1991 SD-R for 50 mins and is noted as shooting down a He111 nr Mourmelon at 14.40hrs
12 May 1940 flew L2055 SD-K three times (55, 30 and 15 mins) and shot down a He 111 near Vouziers
14 May 1940 shot down He 111 near Rheims flying L2045 SD-A for 50 mins
15 May 1940 shot down Do17 nr Vouziers while flying L1949 SD-R for 20 mins
5 June 1940 "Shot down Bf110" nothing in log but did fly "2959 SD-R" the following day.

He is last mentioned as flying P3040 for 30 mins on 25 June 1940. Sheila Lacey seemed to recall that he possibly went on to fly again with another squadron, but was unable to recall which one?

Btw: I did not provide the individual pilot histories or compile the captions in the Listemann book.

Finally, unfortunately I am unable to enter into any further conversation on the subject, having suffered a recent stroke (it took all morning just to compile this, which I hope is of interest?)
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Old 9th November 2018, 20:19
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Re: Flt Sgt Jammy Payne 501 Squadron 1940

Hello Dave
thanks for your input, really sorry to hear of your recent stroke, I am certain that all of us on TOCH hope that you can fully recover and wish you all the best.
Just as an additional bit of information in "Ginger Lacey" by Bickers in his roster of pilot's still on 501 at the end of July he still includes Payne !(probably an error)
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Old 9th November 2018, 22:48
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Re: Flt Sgt Jammy Payne 501 Squadron 1940

Hi Dave,

Thank you for the most useful information. To my knowledge the serials and codes for all the claims, except for May 14, had not previously been known. In addition the claim for May 15 is new to me as I have not seen it in any previous account. You have both L1991 and L1949 coded SD-R. According to your book L1949 was coded SD-M.

I also extend my wishes for a speedy and complete recovery.

Best Wishes,
Tom

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Old 10th November 2018, 16:36
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Re: Flt Sgt Jammy Payne 501 Squadron 1940

Thanks, Dave

The update is most appreciated.

May I wish you speedy progress

Best
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