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Old 7th May 2008, 16:15
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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

5 - Raid to attack airfield Lubinka (~12:00)

6 x Yak-7B (20 iap), with escort of 7 x Yak-7B (Normandie)

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Over the target:

Result of attack on airfield:

20 iap: 13 aircrafts destroyed on airfield;

6 - Raid to attack airfield Lubinka (~17:00)

6 x Yak-7B (18 giap)

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Over the target:

Result of attack on airfield:

18 giap: 6 aircrafts destroyed on airfield;

Claims:

Fw190 shot down by Yak-7B (18 giap), over airfield;

7 - Raid to attack airfield Lubinka (~19:00)

5 x La-5 (Leader - St.Lt. Tolmachyov, 523 iap)

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Over the target:


Group was intercepted by 6 Fw190;

Result of attack on airfield:

Not known, because of aircombat.

Losses:

La-5 (Serj. Bezborodov, 523 iap) - damaged by Fw190, bellylanded in airfield Dugino;
La-5 (Lt. Mishenkov, 523 iap) - damaged by Fw190, landed in his airfield.

7 - Raid to airfield Sescha (time not known)

9 x Pe-2 (2 bap) + 9 x Pe-2 (130 bap), escprt provided by 27 Yak-1 and Yak-7B of 303 iad and 20 iap.

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Over the target:


Group was intercepted by 1 Bf109 and 6 Fw190;

Claims:

Bf109 was shot down by Yak-7B (303 iad)
Fw190 (shared) was shot down by pair (Kap. Butuzov and Ml.Lt. Mashkin)

Result of attack on airfield:

Destroyed 2 hangars and 3 buildings.

Losses:

Pe-2 (Ml.Lt. Plachinda, 130 bap) shot down by Bf109 in area of airfield;
Pe-2 (Ml.Lt. Fyodorov, 130 bap) shot down by Flak in area of airfield;
Yak-1 (St.Lt. Korobkov, 20 iap) shot down by Fw190 in area of airfield;
Yak-1 (Ml.Lt. Sulimov, 20 iap) shot down by Fw190 in area of airfield;
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Old 14th May 2008, 21:34
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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

2 VA raids:

1 - Raid to attack airfield Rogan (~5:20)

6 x Il-2 (Leader Kap. Eliseyev), escort 10 x La-5 (240 iap)
6 x Il-2 (Leader. Ml.Lt. Aleksandrov), escort 8 x La-5 (193 iap)

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Over the target:

Result of attack:
Damaged and destroyed ~30 aircrafts, 8 x Flak, 18 fires;

Losses:

3 x Il-2 damaged by Flak, 1 x Il-2 (Serj. Smirnov) crashed on his airfield.


2 - Raid to attack airfield Kharkov-Aleshki (5:20-5:30)

6 x Il-2 (Leader St.Lt. M.Stepanov, 800 shap) escort by Yak-1’s and Yak-7B’s (183 iap)
4 x Il-2 (Leader Lt. Odintsov, 800 shap)

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Road to target:


After crossing frontline, group came under attack of 2 x Bf109.

Losses:

Yak-1 (183 iap) shot down by Bf109, crashed near fronline
Yak-1 (183 iap) shot down by Bf109, crashed near fronline

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Over the target:

Result of attack: Destroyed on airfield - 2 x Ju88, 9 x Bf109, 1 radiocar, 10 fires, 2 x Flak, damaged ~14 Bf109.

3 - Raid to attack airfield Kharkov-Sokol'niki (5:30-5:32)

5 x Il-2 (Leader St.Lt. Kostyrko, 820 shap) with escort of 8 x Yak-1 of 6 iap

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Over the target:

Result of attack: - 3 large explosions spotted.

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Road from target to base:


Group came under attack of several Bf109

Claims:

Bf109 was damaged by Il-2 gunners( Serj. Butov), “enemy aircraft caught heavy smoke trail and falled down to earth”
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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

Any claim analisys of June raids done?
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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

Kursk The Air Battle by Christer Bergstrom lists the following:
06May43 04:30-06:00 a total of 22 to ground attack including 8 from JG51, 6 from KG4 and 6 from 4.(F)/11. none for the other raids thru the 08May43. No mention of victims in the air.
08Jun43 that JG51 lost 1 FW190.
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Teniente Alejandro Pérez

Hi guys

I should correct a previous post of mine: Feldwebel Hubert Hempel was killed in aerial combat over Sybino on 6 May 1943. My apologies for the error. Here is a photograph of Teniente Alejandro Pérez González of 15.(span)/JG 51 who was killed on 8 June 1943 when he baled out of his fighter but struck the tail. These appear to be the only JG 51 pilots killed in the series of raids. RIP.

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Old 15th May 2008, 22:47
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4 - Raid to attack airfields Poltava and Osnova

5 x A-20B (454 bap) to Poltava without escort
5 x A-20B (454 bap) to Osnova without escort

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Road from target to base:

Group intercepted by several enemy fighters.

Losses:

A-20B (Ml. Lt. Shumikhin, 454 bap), shot down by enemy fighters, crashed in area Volchansk.
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Old 15th May 2008, 23:24
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5 - Raid to attack airfield Kharkov-Sokol'niki (~15:00)

5 x Il-2 (Leader St. Lt. Zabnenkov, 820 shap), with escort of 8 x Yak-7B of 6 iak.

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Over the target:

Result of attack: -damaged and destroyed ~10 aircrafts (Ju88, Bf109, Bf110’s)

Losses:

Il-2 damaged by Flak (Ltn. Ostrov, 820 shap), returned to his airfield.

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Road from target to base:


Group was intercepted by 10-12 Bf109. 2 x Bf109 could pas the escort and attack Il-2’s.

Claims:

Bf109 shot down by Il-2 gunners (Serj. Belokonny, 820 shap), crashed into wood near airfield.

6 - Raid to attack airfield Kharkov-Aleshki (~15:00)

6 x Il-2 (Ltn. Odintzov, 800 shap) with escort of 8 x Yak-1 and Yak-7 (183 iap)
7 x La-5 (193 iap) - Blocking airfields Pomerki and Kharkov-Sokol'niki

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Road to target:


In area of Vesyoloye, Liptzy group came under attack of 12 x Bf109.

Losses:

Il-2 (Serj. Chepelyuk, 800 shap) damaged by Bf109, bellylanded at 5 km NW Vesyoloye
Il-2 (St. Serj. Begel’dinov, 800 shap) damaged by Bf109, bellylanded at 5 km NW Vesyoloye
Yak-7B (183 iap) failed to return from combat mission
Yak-7B (183 iap) failed to return from combat mission
Yak-7B (183 iap) failed to return from combat mission
Yak-7B (183 iap) failed to return from combat mission
La-5 (193 iap) failed to return from combat mission
La-5 (193 iap) failed to return from combat mission
La-5 (193 iap) failed to return from combat mission
La-5 (193 iap) shot down in area Liptzy

Claims:

Bf109 damaged by Il-2 gunners (Serj. Dmitriev, crew of Serj. Chepelyuk, 800 shap), breaked attack with smoke trail;
Bf109 shot down by Il-2 gunners (Nikonov and Belousov, 800 shap), crashed in area Liptzy;
Bf109 shot down by Yak-1 (St. Serj. Novikov, 183 iap), crashed in area Vesyoloye;
Bf109 shot down (shared) by Yak-7B and Yak-1 *Ml. Lt. Petrushkin and St.Serj. Yurchenko, 183 iap) crashed in area Vesyoloye;

Group was managed to return, no attack on target.
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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

Could someone compile a list of Luftwaffe (or may be Hungarian and Romanian also) units, based on that 5 days in may june 43?

It will show what aircrafts COULD be damaged/destroyed on the ground.

Also: could this thread be Sticky?
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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

One of the most blodly raids:

10 june 1943

3 - Raid to attack airfield Bryansk (20:20 ~ 20:30)

6 x Il-2 (Kap. I. Vykhor, 571 shap), 8 x Yak-7B (St.Lt. N.Semyonov, 18 giap)
5 x Il-2 (St.Lt. F. Ermolin, 571 shap), 7 x Yak-7B (Kap. V.Seryogin, 168 iap)
6 x Il-2 (St.Lt. A.Mashnev, 566 shap), 8 x Yak-7B (Kap.Borodin, 168 iap)
5 x Il-2 (St.Lt. Ryabov, 566 shap), 4 x Yak-7B (St.Lt. Yakovlev, 168 iap)

8 x Pe-2 (Kap.M.Grishin, 261 bap), 8 x Yak-7B (Kap.S.Sibirin, 18 giap), 7 x Yak-7B (St.Lt. Zamorin, 18 giap)

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Road to target:


Group came under attack of large group of Fw190;

Claims:

Fw190 shot down by Yak-7B (St.Lt. Yakovlev, 168 iap), crashed in area Svir'
Fw190 shot down by Yak-7B (Podp. Pil'schikov, 168 iap), crashed in area Batogovo
Fw190 shot down by Yak-7B (Podp. Pil'schikov, 168 iap), crashed in area Batogovo
Fw190 shot down by Yak-7B (Lt. Petrov, 168 iap), crashed in area Railroad Station Seltzo.

Losses:

Il-2 (Ml.Lt. Kanaev, 566 shap) shot down by Fw190, failed to return from combat mission
Il-2 (St.Lt. Shuleshko, 566 shap) shot down by Fw190, failed to return from combat mission
Yak-7B (St.Lt. Sokolov, 18 giap) shot down by enemy fighters, failed to return from combat mission
Yak-7B (Ml.Lt. Shumsky, 18 giap) shot down by enemy fighters, failed to return from combat mission
Yak-7B (St.Lt. Yakovlev, 168 iap) damaged by enemy fighters, emlanded on his airfield;
Yak-7B (Ml.Lt. Kochnev, 168 iap) shot down by enemy fighters, crashed in area of Railroad Station Seltzo.

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Over the target:

Result of attack:
destroyed ~17 and damaged ~12 aircrafts, 4 large explosions (probably fuel depots), 1 x Flak;

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Road to target:


Group came under attack of 15 x Fw190 (it was around 20:21), in area Samara-Raditza to Uritzkogo.

Claims:

Fw190 shot down by Il-2 gunner (Kap.Sher, 571 shap), crashed 3km E of Batogovo
Fw190 shot down by Il-2 (Ml.Lt. Ryazantzev, 571 shap), crashed 12 km NE of Batogovo
Fw190 damaged by Il-2 gunners (St.Serj. Vorozhejkin, 571 shap), in area Podbuzhje
Fw190 shot down by Yak-7B (Ml.Lt. Kuprienkov, 168 iap), crashed in area Batogovo – Bryansk
Fw190 shot down by Yak-7B ( Lt. Zamkovsky, 18 giap), crashed in area Bezhitza
Fw190 shot down by Pe-2 gunners (Kap. Sheremet, 261 bap), crashed in area Zhizdra

Losses:

Il-2 ( St.Lt. Bubnov, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( Ml.Lt. Muravyov, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( Kap. I.Vykhor, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( Ml.Lt. Bol’shakov, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( St.Lt. Baranenko, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( Lt. Borisyuk, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( Lt. Privalov, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( St.Lt. Ermolin, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( Ml.Lt. Skantzev, 571 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Podbuzhje
Il-2 ( St.Lt. Pepelyaev, 566 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Shalymovo
Il-2 ( Ml.Lt. Sil’chenko, 566 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Shalymovo
Il-2 ( St.Lt. Trofimov, 566 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Shalymovo
Il-2 ( Lt. Zasypkin, 566 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Shalymovo
Il-2 ( St.Lt. Ryabov, 566 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Shalymovo
Il-2 ( Kap. Skarednov, 566 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Shalymovo
Il-2 ( Serj. Nikitin, 566 shap) shot down by enemy fighters, Bryansk-Shalymovo
Pe-2 (Kap.Grishin, 261 bap), shot down by enemy fighters, crashed in area Zhizdra - Maklaki
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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

Hi,
first I would like to thank all involved in this very interesting thread. I compiled yours and other datas - maybe it is of help.

Greetings from Germany

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