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Old 17th June 2011, 19:42
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Hans Hermann Müller

I am looking for information of oberstleutnant Hans Hermann Müller, born 1921.
He was in 10 NJG 3 in Grove in Denmark. (Karup)
His birthdate and born where ?
From what area of Germany did he come from ?
His date of death and year ?
Where did he live uptil his death ?

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Old 17th June 2011, 22:20
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Re: Hans Hermann Müller

Hi,he was born on 5th February 1921 and confirmed sixteen victories. He flew his first war-time flight on 12th September 1940. Previously flying for 3./KGr.Zbv104, I./NJG2, 7./NJG2, and the Staff of III./NJG2. On 11th June 1944 at 0315 hrs he was shot down by flak, wounded he bailed-out of his Ju88 South of Caen, France. There is some doubt as to whether or not he was awarded the Deutsches Kreuz in Gold, but a date on 1st October 1944 has been suggested. his last unit was Ergst(Nacht)./KG51 where he flew the last of his 241 combat missions, his last flight being on 30th April 1945, he is thought to have survived the war.

22nd February 1942 Erg./NJG2 Lt Wellington sea, 30km West of Katwijk aan Zee 0230 hrs Nr1.
13th April 1942 Erg./NJG2 Lt Boston 2km SW Clundert 0020 hrs Nr2.
20th June 1942 Erg./NJG2 Lt B-24 0259 hrs Nr3.
26th June 1942 Erg./NJG2 Lt Wellington 0358 hrs Nr4.
28th August 1942 III./NJG2 Lt Halifax 0143 hrs 1200 metres altitude Nr5.
28th August 1942 III./NJG2 Lt Lancaster 0216 hrs 1200 metres Nr6.
21st April 1943 10./NJG3 Oblt Stirling NE Vejle 0340 hrs 8 metres Nr7.
24th August 1943 Oblt Stirling 5km SE Hornum 0215 hrs 5500 metres Nr8.
4th November 1943 10./NJG3 Oblt Stirling 1940 hrs 3000 metres Nr9.
4th November 1943 10./NJG3 Oblt Stirling 2002 hrs 2200 metres Nr10.
16th November 1943 10./NJG3 Oblt B-17 1140 hrs 3600 metres Nr11.
18th November 1943 10./NJG3 Oblt B-24 1257 hrs 3600 metres Nr12.
22nd February 1944 10./NJG3 Oblt B-17 Thistedt 1507 hrs 5500 metres Nr13.
22nd February 1944 10./NJG3 Oblt B-17 Thistedt 1509 hrs Nr14.
24th February 1944 10./NJG3 Oblt Lancaster 1455 hrs 100 metres Nr15.
29th September 1944 II./NJG3 Hptm Stirling 0027 hrs 400 metres Nr16.

Surely one on the best night-fighter pilots making claims over American heavies during the day!

Sorry, I no nothing about his post-war history.

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Old 18th June 2011, 11:29
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Re: Hans Hermann Müller

The last two units were 14/SG 151 and NSGr 20 were he flew his last combat mission. Survived and became member of the new Bundesluftwaffe. Retired as Oberstleutnant.

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Old 19th June 2011, 05:59
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Re: Hans Hermann Müller

Our officer career notes state:

MÜLLER, Hans-Hermann.
(DOB: 05.02.21).
(n.d.) with Erg/NJG 2.
08.42 in Stab III./NJG 2.
04.43 with Stab IV./NJG 3.
08.43 Oblt., appt Staka? 10./NJG 3 (to 11.43).
01.05.44 promo to Hptm.
10/11.06.44 Hptm. in 10./NJG 3, WIA - shot up by AA fire and bailed out south of Caen in Normandy.
08.44 in 12./NJG 3.
10.44 Hptm., appt Kdr. of II./NJG 3 (to 10.44).
Credited with at least 18 victories.


Tom Kracker's notes state:

Müller, Hans Hermann. - Hptm. 2/5/1921 - 18 victories. I./NJG-2, 7./NJG-2, Stab III./NJG-2, 10./NJG-3 (3/44 to 5/44), 12./NJG-3 (8/44), Stab II./NJG-3, ENJ ST/KG-51 Bf 110 DK-G(10/1/44), EP, EK 1 & 2, Wound Badge, Night Fighter Operational Clasp WIA 10/11 June, 1944; shot up by AA fire, bailed soth of Caen (Balss). One known victory, his 5th, a B-17 "DN-3" southwest of Lister Fjord on 16 November, 1943. His 6th, another B-24 "GQ-5" two days later, on 18 November, 1943 (both Perry Claims). Nos. 15 & 16, both B-17's west of Gütersloh on 22 February, 1944 (Perry Claims). His 17th, a B-17 in the Daun area on 24 February, 1944. A "4 mot" over the North Sea, near Kiel, on 17 August, 1944. A Stirling on 29 September, 1944, no location. He may have received the Knights Cross. Flugbuch. Magnus Report; victory count may be as high as 30. Bowers/Lednicer, 30 victories.

hopefully this material will help you.

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Old 19th June 2011, 08:03
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Re: Hans Hermann Müller

Kracker is dead wrong on some accounts. He was Kdr. II/NJG 3 untill spring 1945. From there he went to 14/SG 151 at Vaerlöse/DK and then to NSGr 20 were he flew one mission. He did not recive the RK. And its pure speculation that he had 30 victories. His FB confirm 16.

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Old 19th June 2011, 09:27
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Hi Junker

Any mention of when he received his DKiG in his flight book, seems that September 1944 is the last time that dates were recorded, from then on it's just speculation!

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Old 19th June 2011, 09:39
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Re: Hans Hermann Müller

What are the possibilities to trace Hans Hermann Müllers whereabouts after the war ?
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Old 19th June 2011, 10:12
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1955 joined the Bundesluftwaffe. Retired as Oberstleutnant 1971.

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Re: Hans Hermann Müller

Do I have any chance to get the year & date of death for Hans Hermann Müller ?
Will I have any chance to ask Bundesluftwaffe for that ?
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Re: Hans Hermann Müller

Does anyone remember Hans Hermann Müller- from his time in der Bundesluftwaffe ?
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