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Old 22nd August 2019, 20:07
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hello,

does anyone know which usaaf unit was involved in the
attack on "Nauen" (Brandenburg) on 20 April 1945?

that would help me with some research ...

thank you in advance!!

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Old 22nd August 2019, 21:05
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This is what I have for this date:

STRATEGIC OPERATIONS (Eighth Air Force): Mission 962: 837 bombers and 890 fighters are dispatched to hit rail targets NNW to SSW of Berlin, Bavaria and Czechoslovakia; they claim 7-0-4 Luftwaffe aircraft; 1 B-17 is lost: 1. 319 B-17s are sent to hit the rail industry at Nauen (82) and marshalling yards at Wustermark (77), Neuruppin (57) and Oranienburg (82); 1 hits Neuruppin Airfield, a target of opportunity; 15 B-17s are damaged and 1 airman WIA. Escorting are 258 of 271 P-51s; 1 is lost. 2. 289 B-17s are dispatched to attack marshalling yards at Brandenburg (137), Seddin (66) and Treuenbrietzen (82); 1 B-17 is lost and 10 damaged; 10 airmen are MIA. The escort is 227 of 241 P-51s.

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hello ed,

thank you very much for your reply!!
can you also confirm the 34 BG?

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The 93rd Combat Bombardment Wing bombed Nauen.
The 34th BG had 28 planes over Nauen. http://valortovictory.tripod.com/1945-04.htm
The other two groups were the 490th BG and the 493rd BG.

493rd Mission list: http://www.arizonahandbook.com/8thAF_18.htm

Last mission of the 490th to Nauen comment on these pages:
https://books.google.com/books?id=41...=Nauen&f=false

Since only 82 planes bombed Nauen these three groups probably accounted for that total.
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You're welcome.

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thank you both!!

last question:
were german planes also involved in the defense?
or rather not ...


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hello,

another attempt:

were there any german aircraft losses during this attack on 20-04-1945?
could someone please have a look ...


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Speaking only for myself, you should learn how to read a mission report. The report I posted includes mention of Luftwaffe aircraft encountered. Which aircraft from which squadron? I suggest you do some further research since you do have a mission number to work with. Then there are the upcoming volumes of Die Jagdfliegerverbände der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1934 bis 1945 by Jochen Prien, Gerhard Stemmer, Peter Rodeike & Winfried Bock. It appears volume 13/VI will cover the rest of 1944. 1945 will be next.

In 1945, it was the USAAF since the Air Force was part of the Army.
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excuse me,

but if I had known where and how I could research,
I probably wouldn't have asked!

other, much simpler questions are also answered ...

and a book, which does not exist yet, is of little use
to me?

I am a moderator myself in a big treasure hunter
forum and no research is too much for me!

no offense and thank you for your answer!


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The complete description for mission 962 can be found here for example, see April 20:

http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/wwii...ml/Apr.45.html


Note:A link to each month during the war is here which also includes a couple of download options: http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/wwii...tml/index.html

Mission 962 for April 20 is broken down into 7 parts, with part 1 being the attack that included Nauen.

It states that the claim of (7-0-4) Luftwaffe aircraft (see part 4 in the link) relates to mission parts 2 and 3. Thus there were no claimed Luftwaffe losses for the attack on Nauen, which was in part 1.

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