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Old 10th October 2018, 09:06
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Exclamation P-47 crashlanding in Belgium on november 30 1943

Hello ,

On november 30 1943 USAAF P-47 made a crashlanding in the polders of Zandvliet Belgium.The pilot David Kramer was safe and he evaded.
Does someone has more info on this crashlanding.

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Old 10th October 2018, 12:49
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Re: P-47 crashlanding in Belgium on november 30 1943

Alain,

Shot down by Me-109s, together with P-47s of Lt Robert Brown and Lt Robert E. Babbitt (both KIA).

352nd FG/486th FS.

See also http://wiki.regionaalarchieftilburg...._november_1943.

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Old 10th October 2018, 12:52
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Re: P-47 crashlanding in Belgium on november 30 1943

Just to add: Kramer's P-47 was 42-8514.

Babbitt: 42-22516
Brown: 42-8411

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Re: P-47 crashlanding in Belgium on november 30 1943

The E&E report for David Kramer:

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/5556531

For those with fold3 access, Kramer's MACR:

https://www.fold3.com/image/28703311

Kramer was helped by the "Comet Line", search for Kramer here: http://www.cometeline.org/cometaviateurpasse.html

Kramer's E&E report mentions another evader "Herminsky" who was probably Lloyd V Hermanski.

Hermanski's E&E is here: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/5556616

Hermanski's MACR (B-24 41-29118, "Nine Yanks and a Jerk" ) is here: https://www.fold3.com/image/29623708

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Re: P-47 crashlanding in Belgium on november 30 1943

Thank you all for your help

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Re: P-47 crashlanding in Belgium on november 30 1943

Hi all,

was these 3 P-47 claimed by JG 3?

thanks for confirmation.

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Re: P-47 crashlanding in Belgium on november 30 1943

With regard to the place of the claims by JG3 (Tilburg/Dender-Monde),it's more than obvious.Only the JG3 make claims in the region.

The claims of Grunberg,Lemke,Thyben,are founded:100%!....remarkable!

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