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Crash B17 at Lokeren on 5 nov 1943
I am doing research on a crash of a B17 at Lokeren, Belgium on the 5th of November 1943. The plane was shot down (±14.00hr) by a Focke Wulf.
It was AC nr. 42-30789 (Flak Suit or Butcher Boy) with pilot Lt Bramwell. I have two questions: is there someone on this forum who have more information about that Focke Wulf plane and pilot? The second question is more complicated and maybe not for this forum , but anyway I try: Two crewmembers were death. The German autority give two names to burried them: T/Sgt Harrenstein and T/Sgt Kenneth D. Shaver (tagnr 34036141 ). But it was not Shaver in that plane. It was S/Sgt John Craig who was killed. Shaver was a member of the crew of a B17 with nr 42-3014, that was shot down the same day in South Holland (Zeeland). How its name comes on the Kommandantur of Sint-Niklaas? You see, we have a problem here in Lokeren. My best regards, Andre |
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Re: Crash B17 at Lokeren on 5 nov 1943
This is where to look for information on the German claim: http://lesbutler.co.uk/claims/tonywood.htm
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Re: Crash B17 at Lokeren on 5 nov 1943
Hi André,
Do you have copies of the macr's and E & E reports of both crews (42-30789 and 42-30142) - if needed contact me via pm - ? T/Sgt Shaver was not killed, but escaped after being taken prisoner. best regards from another part of Belgium, Luc |
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Re: Crash B17 at Lokeren on 5 nov 1943
I have 42-30789/T "Butcher Boy" (ex "Flak Suit") of 563rd BS, 388th BG. 2/Lt. William J Bramwell Jr and 4 others POW, 2 KIA and 3 evaded capture
...As likely shot down by Ofw. Kirschow of 3/SKG 10. Additionally, tt's worth noting that Hermann Staiger of 12/JG 26 is known to have claimed against the 388th BG and that they also lost B-17F-90-BO 42-30142 of the 560th BS. |
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