Analysis Luftwaffe losses in IX 1939 !

[robert]

Hi,

I also have problems to understand the article of Marius because of bad Polish.

Regards

Robert

[Marius]

Dear Mr.Wawrzynski,
could you exactly explain what do you mean with "horror-Polish" please? As I read your posts I do have the feeling there are 2-3 errors or even more in every sentence.

But I cannot imagine that. It isn`t possible, because the text was checked up by a professional translator Polish-German/German-Polish and teacher of Polish language.

By the way I gave your comments on to the translator. His first reaction was not realy positive about what you are doing here - against several people working with the article and publishing it.

Besides this it makes me funny that people are doing such defamed comments here making errors in their own articles or even books (see for example "Czerwone Gwiazdy", Warszawa 2008 - starting with stylistic and word-order errors on the second page (page 11) of the main text already!) or never published anything so far.

Regards,

[robert]

So what? Because I had not published anything I`m stupid and can`t speak/read Polish?
I think your translator should go back to school.
I will give you two samples (taken from another forum because I don`t have time):
"Skierowanie samolotów do reparacji" or "straty totalne". The second this is a real "German" Polish.

Regards

Robert

[Marius]

You don`t like "two words" out of 7000-8000 and therefore the whole article is bad Polish ? You don`t understand anything ?
And you mean you don`t understand the words "total losses" ? Wow!

Just laughable!
As well as your insult against the translator.

Nobody here said you are stupid or you can`t speak/read Polish. But your reaction is realy interesting!
We`ll see how many "bad errors" you will make when you publish.

Regards,

[Mirek Wawrzynski]

Do Pan Emmerlinga
„Co miłe nie zawsze jest prawdziwe, a to co prawdziwe nie zawsze jest miłe”. Lao-tsy

S. 98, III kolumna, koniec.


(…) Odnośnie do maszyn „Sonstige” dokumenty mieszają je raz z morskim (Ob.d.M.), innym razem z łącznikowym („Verbinder”). Stąd zapewne wynikła różnica aż 5 ubytków, z których, po odliczeniu 3 nad terenem nieprzyjaciela, 2 nie dadzą się jednoocznie określić. Niewykluczone wszakże, ze chodzi dokładnie o 2 samoloty zniszczone na własnym terenie po ostrzale OPL, które ewentualnie zostały nieumyślnie pominięte w dokumencie „materialle Abgange”.


Litości! Ratunku!!! K… o co chodzi temu autorowi? Nie wiem? Styl horro-Polish lub banglo-Polish.


Języka polska Panie Emmerling jest ona bardzo trudna. Very bardzo trudna. O tak. Wiem o tym b. dobrze z własnego wieloletniego doświadczenia.


Proponuje zakończyć tę dyskusję, bo nie ma Pan bladego pojęcia jakie poważne błędy językowe Pan czyni. Nie czuje Pan języka i tyle. Styl tragiczny, po prostu horror. Nie ma o czym z Panem rozmawiać, bo to tak jak ze ślepcem o kolorach, albo ze świnią o śpiewaniu. Próżna dyskusja.



Szkoda mojego czasu na to gówno językowe.



Mam nadzieję, że nie czuje się Pan zbytnio urażony.


Serdecznie pozdr.
mw

PS
Takich „kartofli” językowych jest więcej, niż ten jeden przytoczony w Pana bardzo ciekawym merytorycznie i niewątpliwe analitycznym materiale. Help, Hilfe, Ratunku, na pomoc!!!

[robert]

Do you understand word "sample"? There are more errors but I don`t have time to write them down.
Aha. Nobody in Poland will say or write "straty totalne" - "straty calkowite" this is a correct word!

Robert

[John Beaman]

OK, guys, let's be cool here. NO PERSONAL attacks like calling someone stupid. Stick to facts and references as needed.

I will shut this thread down if needed.

[Mirek Wawrzynski]

John
there are no personal attack but if you can, do it just now and close this tread. Thanks in advance. Would be better, I think so.
mw

[Marius]

Robert, it seems you never have read the article! You will find in the text the total losses as: "straty totalne" besides "straty calkowite" (!) and "straty bezpowrotne". Surprised? Me too, but more about your rash and unwise attacks. What are you doing here if you have no time but nevertheless giving statements about an article you do not realy know?!


Mr.Wawrzynski, what level is this ?!
I am very sorry but I cannot detect any errors. What are you talking about?
I only see errors in your comments written in Polish. Is this correct Polish ?!

Best regards,

[robert]

I will not waste more time for such discussion. For arguments see the above mentioned text (by Mirek) - there are at least five errors (stylistic and gramma). You must understand that I have no time to make you a free editing work. Unless you will pay me for that.
Sorry.

Robert