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Old 6th July 2018, 22:13
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Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?

Good evening,

The only actual Luftwaffe claim documents I have seen were those of Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker presented by Andreas Zapf in his on-line essay on the 10./NJG 11 of 2014.

Apparently, accompanying the filled-in claim form entitled "Abschussmeldung, Zerstorungsmeldung" each pilot wrote a brief performa Gefechtsbericht (Battle report).

From Becker's Battle Report for the daylight claim on 15.2.45, (Zapf, p. 72):

"… Nach Y-Messung erfolgte der Abschuss im Planquadrat KG6 um 15.46 U".


From Becker's Battle Reports for the following night claims:

21.3.45 (Zapf, p.96):

"… Der Angfriff erfolgte nach Egon-Messung im Planquadrat GG5/6."

23.3.45 (Zapf, p.99):

"… Der Abschuss erfolgte in 8000 m im Scheinwerfer. Der Standort nach Egon-Messung war GG2 um 23.50 Uhr von der 1.J.D."

23.3.45 (Zapf, p. 100) second claim:
"Der Standort nach Egon-Messung war FG8 um 23.53 Uhr von der 1. Jagddivision"

My questions are:

1. How were the locations determined?

2. When was this technology first used for claims?

3. After introduction, was this technology used on all Luftwaffe aircraft?

Thanks in advance,

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Old 7th July 2018, 15:02
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Re: Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?

Hi,
As it says in your German quote the position was determined by the ground station.
For further info on Y and EGON control please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/Jargerleit%20Stellungen.htm
please note four parts.
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Old 8th July 2018, 18:15
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Re: Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?

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Hi,
As it says in your German quote the position was determined by the ground station.
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Thank you, SES. I am still curious as to how individual claim locations were determined by ground stations.

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Old 8th July 2018, 21:38
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Re: Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?

Hi,
The ground station controls the fighter, when the pilot makes a claim the station knows the exact position.
To understand the full procedure you need to read the four parts I provided a link to.
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