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Old 8th August 2019, 17:03
Courtois Laurent Courtois Laurent is offline
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Attacks of the lobellen's airport by the Normandie-Niemen

in the Normandy-Niemen war diary, there is talk of an attack on the Ragnit airfield on October 14, 1944.
The Russian Report talks about Yuktashin, who must be Juckstein.
In reality it must be Lobellen.
The French claim 2 victory. A Me109 for Poype and a FW190 for Roger Sauvage plus 1 FW190 damaged.
At that time in Lobellen are I / SG4 (FW190), I / JG51 and III / JG52 (Me109).

Can anyone confirm if these units had losses that day? If I identify the right aerodrome.

Thanks in advance.

PS: I am trying to clarify the exact number of victoiry of Normandy-Niemen which seems to me extraordinary high for the Month of October 1944.
117 victories whereas I only found 85 planes lost for the Luftwaffe in East Prussia for this month.

If the question interests another member, I open another topic to share my work?

Thank you in advance to those who will take the trouble to read me and answer me.
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Old 9th August 2019, 03:41
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Re: Attacks of the lobellen's airport by the Normandie-Niemen

Hi Laurent,

The only loss I'm aware of for 14 October 1944 is a Bf 109 from I./J.G. 51 in aerial combat. None of the other relevant units reported losses, and 4. Flieger-Division only recorded a single loss for the day.

I'd be interested to see your work on this subject.

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Old 9th August 2019, 16:42
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Re: Attacks of the lobellen's airport by the Normandie-Niemen

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your answer.

In the book "Jagdgeschwader 51 " Môlders", of Aders and Held" no deaths have been reported for the day of 14/10/44.
I deduce that the pilot survived, being happy ending, because in the mission report the fall of the Me109 is described as well :

"I shot three bursts. Me-109 was hit ignited, began to sting and crashed into fire on the ground 1 km away. east of Nettschunen / 12 km. southeast of Ragnit."

I finish with the synthesis of the Lobellen combats and I start a subject on: Normandy - Niemen: victories of October 1944: myth or reality.
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