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15.(Kroat)/JG52
Hello,
can somebody clarify the number of total pilot losses of this unit ? Some sources say 16 killed(all reason) and 7 defected and the other say 16 losses and from these 7 defected. Thanks
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
Depend on which source you is based your info. Best info is the retired general Vojislav Mikic who have done much research and Bundesarchiv and military archive in Belgrade and two researchers from Belgrade, Dragan Savic and Boris Ciglic are published book in Osprey about this unit- and this is best source of data and available online for sale.
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
Main archive is in Belgrade and except of the domestic data there is also microfilmed data from German archives. Did the author of the book use this data? I have never seen his book so can't tell you anything. Better wait for the other to give you full info- I just give you some direction.
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
I guess we might get more info when Marko Jeras's book "Checkerboard Hunters" finally gets out.
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
Hi,
According to my files, I have the following: KIA/KIFA - 9 Lt. Ewald Baumgarten - german liason officer Obfw. Veca Mikovic Fw. Stjepan Radic Lt. Jure Lasta Lt. Josip Nikoljacic Obfw. Josip Cipcic Lt. Andelko Antic Uffz. Vladimir Salamon Uffz. Dragutin Gazapi defection/possible defection - 7 Hptm. Berislav Supek Oblt. Nikola Vucina Obfw. Viktor Mihelcic Hptm. Bogdan Vujicic Oblt. Albin Starc Hptm. Nikola Cvikic Lt. Nikola Vice regards, Tomislav |
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
what does "possible defection" mean ?
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
Well, for some pilots I still have no firm evidence that they defected.
Hptm. Berislav Supek changed after the war his statements a few times, from desorientation to organised defection. Oblt. Nikola Vucina defected Obfw. Viktor Mihelcic was supposedly shot down on an escort mission Hptm. Bogdan Vujicic, Oblt. Albin Starc and Hptm. Nikola Cvikic, all defected Lt. Nikola Vice went missing in a Kl35. |
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
Mihelcic was KIA
Vice defected to Turkey with an mechanic Mikovic was shot and killed by Soviet troops after a forced landing on the Soviet side of the front (his plane was struck by return fire from an Pe 2) Berislav Supek lost orientation and landed on Soviet side Mato Dukovac and Zvonimir Spoljar also defected Josip Kranjc KIA Albin Sval KIA Zvonimir Rajteric KIFA Cipic (not Cipcic) KIFA Ivan Karner KIFA the rest of info is correct |
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Re: 15.(Kroat)/JG52
Hi Boris,
is this the same person or two different pilot ? And what is with Culinovic Mato KIA 7/10/1943 and Martinasevic Stephan KIFA 23/12/43 I assume, all pilot in your list killed during there duty in the east front ? Thanks
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Igor Last edited by kalender1973; 15th February 2007 at 10:31. |
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