ID of P-47 crashed in Ouffets, Belgium, on 17 Dec 1944

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Hello,

I'm searching the ID of the AC and pilot that was shot down by Flak near Ouffets on 17 Dec 1944. The pilot, a Major, evaded capture.

From what can be seen in the pictures on this website http://www.stockamericain.net/produc...id_product=353, the P-47 was from 389th FS, 366th FG (code A6-), and his serial started with 42-2... but I have not found a candidate on the Internet P-47 database (http://p-47.database.pagesperso-oran...e/42-2xxxx.htm).

On the MACR list in December 1944, the only 366th loss with in the serial a 22 and a 6 in comparable places is the P-47 42-27369, MACR 11411, lost on 24 Dec 1944 but the pilot was killed.

[ssg keay]

Laurent, I believe he did not evade capture, but rather crash-landed in friendly territory. That would explain no MACR. I just checked my database and no loss in December that would fit this P-47. So that is why I assume, he came down behind friendly lines. Danny

[Laurent Rizzotti]

You're right the source said that the pilot was helped by the locals and then picked up by the Americans.

So no MACR.

Hence the next question: does someone have a Major of 389th FS, 366th FG, crash-landing in this area on 17 December 1944, possibly after his two wingmen were shot down (AFAIK this is how it was reported by ground testimonies, and is not sure) ?

[Alain57]

Hello gentleman ,
I have the following info :

13/09/1944
Wanne/Longbiermé
P-47D-28-RA
Belly landing
Strafing teh bridge over the Ambleve River near Cheneux
42-28460 3
65FG/388FS
C4-R
City of Healdsburg
A-84
1st Lt Read John R 0-887256 ( EVD )
It seems that pieces of this aircraft are on display at the museum at La Gleize.

Regards
Alain57

[Revi16]

Two accidents with a s/n of 42-2???6 (same plane?), one dated 12-19-44.



44/10/28 P-47D 42-26346 389FS 366FG A70 9 TOASF 3 Stinson, Robert W Laon (Couvron)/A-70
TOASF Take Off Accident Structural Failure


44/12/19 P-47D 42-26346 389FS 366FG Y29 9 LACW 4 Angove, Garfield G Asch/Y-29
LACW Landing Accident due to Weather

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Thanks for the reply,

As often, the story as written by "witnesses" is difficult to confirm in official documents.

I wonder if the displayed pictures on the website are the good ones, or were just put there by the seller.

[KM1957]

The plane is question is 42-27216 and date was December 27, 1944. Pilot was Lt. James W. Pinkerton.