Six 238 Squadron Hurricanes to trace

[Jon]

Some of you may have looked at my recent posts in the Luftwaffe Forum.
I am desperatley trying to trace the incident of Sgt Bann being shot down in July 1940 by I assume, a Luftwaffe gunner, see his letter on page 352 Battle of Britain Then and Now.
With the superb help of Chris Goss i have now managed to narrow it down to one of the possible aircraft below. I had thought the incident was on the 21st July but this looks to be wrong and could have been early in July.

Can anyone put a name to any of the below Hurricanes next to its lost date? I note from a 238 ORB that Sgt Bann flew P2948 on several occasions...was this his chosen aircraft? the 18th is close to my assumed date of the 21st..

N2329-25 Jul 40
P2948-18 Jul 40......
P3208-25 Jul 40
P3700-3 Jul 40
P3703-6 Jul 40
P3767-15 Jul 40

Thanks to Chris Goss and everyone who has and, will help on this....keep helping!

[Chris Goss]

Had a chance to look at some sources:

N2329: Survived until 18 May 44
P3700: Damaged in combat 3 Jul 40

Anyone with access to the Air Britain P series book will be able to answer the remainder

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

N2329: Survived until 18 May 44

Served with 501 Sqn August/September 1940 as SD-K.

[M sIMPSON]

Hi there,
P3703:Flew into Pennings Hill near Tidworth,Wiltshire,in bad weather,5/7/40.Pilot P/O Brian Firminger killed and aircraft Cat.3 destroyed.
Regards, Mark.

[paulmcmillan]

I have:
P3208
18.8.40 Hurricane I 501 Sqn Calcott Hill, Sturry, Kent
Shot down by fighters Coded SD-T

P3700
303 Sqn, shot down by Bf109 over Beachy Head 09.09.40 (17:55), F/Sgt Wunsche baled out, WIA

P3703
5.7.40 Hurricane I 238 Sqn The Pennings, North Tidworth, Wilts. Dived In Ground

P3767
257 Sqn, destroyed in the landing accident at Northolt 12.07.40, P/O the Hon D.A.Coke unhurt
which could be wrong as http://fishponds.org.uk/luftbri10.html
Has the following:

21.07.40: Reconn. over airfields in Bournemouth, Bristol, Oxford and Portsmouth area: 4(F)/14.
Do 17M, Wnr.780, 5F+OM of 4(F)/14.
Oblt. Georg Thiel (B) POW injured
Fw. Fritz Bohnen (F) POW injured
Uffz. Alfred Werner (Bf) POW injured
Intercepted by the Hurricanes of A Flight, 238 Sq. (Middle Wallop);
S/Ldr. Harold Fenton, F/Lt. Donald Turner, F/O. C.T.Davies,
P/O. J.S.Wigglesworth and Sgt. L.G.Batt.
The Dornier was shot down and crash-landed at Nutford Farm, 1 mile north of
Blandford, Dorset at 15.00 hrs. During the combat Hurricane P3767, flown by P/O. C.T.Davies, was damaged by return fire.

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by paulmcmillan

P3700
303 Sqn, shot down by Bf109 over Beachy Head 09.09.40 (17:55), F/Sgt Wunsche baled out, WIA

Well photographed aircraft, coded RF-E.

[Jon]

This is fantastic information, exactly what this forum is all about.

I am more and more convinced it is the 18th July, he perhaps was flying P2948, when it was lost on this date and i know from several ORB's that Bann had flown this aircraft on several occasions.

WITH RISK OF REPEATING MYSELF FROM THE OTHER FORUM...!
Interestingly Banns letter says he was missing for three days, then on return got leave for two days...if he went missing on the 18th his return to combat would have been on the 24th, I have an ORB with him flying on the 25th so this date does fit.

Anyone have a 238 ORB from July 18th to hand ?

[paulmcmillan]

P2948 came to grief on Dec 8th 1940 with 55 OTU at Moreton-in-Marsh according to this web site:

http://www.wellingtonaviation.org/history/docs/

[Jon]

Thanks Paul.

As Black Adder would say , it rymes with "Clucking Bell" !

Thanks Paul, back to the drawing board again !!

[Dan Gilberti]

Hi, my english was very basic, sorry for not understand the question...
I'm certainly out of topic, but i habe theses datas for help :

28.09.40 238 Hurricane I V6776 Sergeant S E Bann Fighter Command Sgt S E Bann Killed Patrol Baled out near Fareham See the three volumes of Fighter Command Losses by Norman Franks, Published by Midland Publishing; Five volumes of Fighter Command War Diaries by John Foreman, Published by Air Research Publications and the Commonwealth War Graves Commission 'Debt of Honour' searchable database, which may provide more information on the individual service person

hop it's can interesting
Best Regards, Dan