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Old 7th October 2017, 10:38
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Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Hello,

Can anyone provide details of the loss of the Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356 on the 08.10.1942?

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Old 7th October 2017, 17:17
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

5./ZG 1
Lt. Werner Damm (FF)
Uffz. August Krieger (Bf)
Bf 110 E-2
S9+TN
4356
Hit by Flak. Did not return from combat mission.
20 Kms. south of Gorjatsch-Kljutsch.
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Thank John!

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Old 7th October 2017, 19:37
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Oleg - this aircraft was found some time ago.
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Old 8th October 2017, 11:11
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

John

I have this one listed as a D-3 model (most likely from the Mankau/Petrick book). Since I feel it was a bit unlikely D models were rebuilt into E ones, can you possibly give me a clue how to interpret all this?

Since I assume you have the WNr details that both Mankau/Petrick used, are these numbers open for questioning?

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Old 8th October 2017, 12:22
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Hello Stig,

Mankau/Petrick say Werk-Nr. 4213-4380 = 168 Bf 110 D-3 built by Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau GmbH in Bremen.

In the Gen.Qu. loss report from 19 October 1942 is listed Bf 110 F (S9+TN) 4359. In the supplement (Ergänzung) from 29 October 1942 h) is noted:
Ändere Werk-Nr. 4359 in 4356 (Bf 110 F).

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Old 8th October 2017, 13:28
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Thanks Leo

Now you have made me even more confused...
Three different 110 versions?

What was it in real life??

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Old 8th October 2017, 15:03
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Hello Stig,

let us wait for an answer to your post #5.

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Old 9th October 2017, 11:41
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

John:
I could add, that as well as I know, ETC50 bombracks were found on the crashplace, and in Your book there are some photoes of S9+TN in flight, wich are showing a Bf110E aircraft. So I suggest it was built as a E variant.
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Old 9th October 2017, 20:42
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

John,

Given your interest in the Bf 110, you might be interested in the following Russian language links concerning the discovery of the aircraft which forms the subject of this thread. This occurred relatively recently, as Evgeny mentioned:

http://iskatelklada.tuapse.ru/razdel...-110-4356.html

and

http://trizna.ru/forum/topic/38074-%...B%D0%BA%D0%B0/

I can translate some of this content, should you want me to.

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