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Old 3rd February 2017, 17:48
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So that probably means that communication between luftwaffe units in Norway, was mostly by landline, and was never picked up by ULTRA?

Then what we have left, is communication with ship traffic?
Quite a lot of what I have seen could be explained by liaison between the Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine. Given the geography of Norway, I guess that very few flights would take place that would completely avoid the sea.
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Today's additions and updates to Ghost Bombers are:
  • A new article: ULTRA and Unternehmen »PAULA«: 3 June 1940.
  • Kommando Götz: details of a mission flown on 1 March 1945 (thanks to Chris Going).
  • Staffel Kaatsch: the homeward flight of a damaged aircraft on 28 August 1944 (thanks to “Xerumbe” of the 12 o’clock high forum).
  • Nachtjagdstaffel Norwegen: a British Intelligence appreciation of October 1944; identification of a shot down Lancaster (thanks to Theo Boiten).
  • Jagdgeschwader Recognition Bands: more about the general notification to commands that German fighters would carry coloured bands (thanks to “Seaplanes” of the 12 o’clock high forum).
  • Kommando Olga: activity by two aircraft of 6.(F)/123 on the night of 22/23 August 1944.
  • Kommando Rastedter: addition of a strength return for 4./FAGr. 5 on 6 July 1944.
  • Geschwader Bongart: something about I./LLG 1's departure from France plus some small additions regarding Bongart's operations on 5, 6 , 8 and 9 July 1944 (thanks to Jochen Prien); an additional note about 13 July; and a comment from a Maquis veteran about an action on 20 July.
  • Kampfflieger Vol. IV: an addition about II./KG 6's part in the attack on Soissons on 30/31 August 1944.
  • Adlertag: added an operation by I./KG 27 against airfields in England on the night of 6/7 June 1940.
  • 1940 loss reports: six additional reports for the month of May and one for 11 June.
  • A clarification about Kommando Schenck's target on 28 August 1944.
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"On the 25th, Uffz. Heinrich Semmelrogge (pilot), Uffz. Werner Dörries (radio operator), Uffz. Rudolf Lang (Bordwart) died in a crash attributed to pilot error (Ju 88 G-6, W.Nr. 621284, B4+NA). Petrick places this crash 20 km south west of Gardermoen aerodrome. Another G-6 was 30% damaged in a crash the following day but this time none of the crew was injured."

The location of this crash is correct, it went down about 1000 m from the house where I live now, in Gjerdrum. There are still people remembering the crash, they did however say that it was no doubt engine malfunction coming in. This day the plane had a completly different sound, and then it went down.

The germans cleaned up the wreck, so there is only metal parts showing up these days.
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"On the 25th, Uffz. Heinrich Semmelrogge (pilot), Uffz. Werner Dörries (radio operator), Uffz. Rudolf Lang (Bordwart) died in a crash attributed to pilot error (Ju 88 G-6, W.Nr. 621284, B4+NA). Petrick places this crash 20 km south west of Gardermoen aerodrome. Another G-6 was 30% damaged in a crash the following day but this time none of the crew was injured."

The location of this crash is correct, it went down about 1000 m from the house where I live now, in Gjerdrum. There are still people remembering the crash, they did however say that it was no doubt engine malfunction coming in. This day the plane had a completly different sound, and then it went down.

The germans cleaned up the wreck, so there is only metal parts showing up these days.
Thanks very much for that information, I'll include it the next time I update the site.
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For the record (Unternehmen Paula etc update)
10 17 is Biggin Hill; 10 118 is Kenley; 10 99 is Hawkinge; 10 136 is Lympne
and finally 10 281 is Detling.

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For the record (Unternehmen Paula etc update)
10 17 is Biggin Hill; 10 118 is Kenley; 10 99 is Hawkinge; 10 136 is Lympne
and finally 10 281 is Detling.

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Thanks, Chris.

Quite a lot of these target numbers appear in the messages and the British gradually understood more of them as time went on, I suppose because they could compare them with what had actually been bombed.
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