Photo Martinsyde Aircraft

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay there is a photo of Martinsyde G.100 'Elephant' of 27 Sq at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/AK-ca-1916-H...EAAOSwTlVelf4R


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of Martinsyde G.105 'Elephant' A1581 AT:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMALL-AND...UAAOSwJp1eqVfH


So given that the aircraft is not an Avro 504K as indicated by the seller, presumably it is not necessarily shown on a rainy day in Spain (whether on the plain or not) either. The usually helpful Air Britain site at http://airhistory.org.uk/rfc/aircraft.html doesn't have much on this aircraft either. So does anyone know who operated A1581 and perhaps where the photo was taken?


Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

Quite correct Clint

Two things are correct in that headline, it was a rainy day the photo was taken and Spain did by Avro 504K postwar. However the picture does not show any of them.

I cannot see any reason for Martinsyde to send down a G.102 postwar to Spain. By 1919 the aircraft was certainly past its prime and why Spain should be interested in worn out second hand Elephants is beyond me. Spain bought only fighters (F.4 and F.6) from Martinsyde.

A1581 is known to have been issued to C Sqn of CFS by April 1917 and coded 11 at some point with that unit. I have no fate for it but it is doubtful it lingered on until 1919. Too many ham fisted pilots around if you ask me....

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Thanks Stig,


So most likely the photo is from A1581s time at the CFS.


Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

I would say that is very, very likely Clint!

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Martin & Handasyde monoplane at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373781277...AAAOSw2jphhRNy




Further items from this seller which may be of interest can be found here:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?it...ation&_sacat=0


Regards,


Clint

[Buckeye30]

Lt. Vincent Waterfall was killed in Avro 504 no. 390 on 16/9/1914 with Lt. C G G Bayly over Belgium (no.5 Sqn.).


Nick

[Stig Jarlevik]

Hi Nick

Lt Waterfall is usually listed as KIA 22 Aug 1914.
Do you have some kind of new evidence which support your 16 Sep date?

B Rgds
Stig

[Buckeye30]

Hi Stig. Sorry I was reading the wrong line on the personnel list. Waterfall and Bayly's cemetery registration is on the first document here...22 Aug.
Thanks
Nick



https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...ent-waterfall/

[Stig Jarlevik]

No worries Nick

Don't know your age, but in my own case there are too many moments where I just sit back and think, am I getting old, or am I getting old?

Well, we are moving in that direction regardless if we like it or not!

Cheers
Stig