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FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
Hello
On the night of June 12/13 1944, Halifax LK850 of 158 Squadron claimed an FW.190 near Rouen. The 158 Sqn. O.R.B. Form 541 has the following: At 01.38 hrs, 4940N 0225E height 8,000 on homeward trip Me-109 fired and R/G replied. No claim. At 01.56 hrs 4935N 0105E 7,000 ft. homeward saw red flare and then 2 FW.190 on port beam below. M/U/G gave 2 20-sec. bursts and saw one FW.190 burst into flames and go down. Confirmed by B/A and R/G and claimed destroyed. Is it possible there is an ID for this FW.190 the Halifax claimed? Many thanks, Regards Simon |
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
Thank you - a very interesting link.
Regards Simon |
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
Hello ,
Just a question wich Luftwaffe unit(s) flew FW-190's at night ? Grts Alain57 |
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
The principal role of the following was night bombing: I./SKG 10 (which became III./KG 51 and then NSG 20), Stab and 1./NSG 9, III./KG 200, Sonderverband Einhorn, III./SG 151 (+ intention to use 14./SG 151 but I don’t know if this happened before the surrender).
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
Hello guys,
Though I do not exclude the chance that actually Fw190's were active that night, I would advice lots of precaution. As early as 1942 the Interception & Tactics Reports of RAF Bomber Command contain encounters of British bombers and one-engined German fighters, long before German fighters were involved in Wilde Sau nightfighting. Best regards, Marcel
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airfield Venlo in WW-2, I./NJG 1, He219-project |
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
Thank you for the further replies. Apologies for asking more questions, but this is well outside my knowledge.
Does the fact that there seemed to be two single-engined fighters and a red flare being fired tie in with German 'Wilde Sau' tactics? The ORB mentions the Bf-109 that fired on them a few minutes earlier - could Bf-109s have in that area at night-time? Is this a case of mis-identification in one or indeed both cases? As an aside, the same crew and gunner claimed a Ju-88 on the night of June 16/17 1944 on an Op to Sterkrade in Halifax MZ703 NP-K, but the ORB does not give any details for timings or location. Regards Simon |
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
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(b) cases of mistaken identity were common, understandably. |
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
Dear all,
My WEB-page is based on a copy of an order from II/JK, Flg.Korps IX my two cents would be on a Fw190 from I/SKG 10. bregds SES |
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Re: FW.190 night fighter loss, June 12/13 1944, Rouen
No I./SKG 10 claims or losses that night
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