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Combat West Rouen on 26 08 1944
Dear All
Does anyone have information concerning a dog fight over West Rouen (Duclair area over the Seine River) on 26 08 1944 . 2 FW 190A-8 of II./JG6 where shot down , both pilots bailed out . 2 where damaged The hours was circa 9:00 German time so it could be 8:00 english time . The allied aircrafts were reported being P-51 mustangs , but they could be also spitfire . Many thanks for any information Eric LArger |
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Re: Combat West Rouen on 26 08 1944
From a loss list there is 1. Fw 190 A8 171?09 yellow 6 of 7/JG6 Fw. Heinrich Knopf wounded - Tergnier 2. Fw190 A8 171495 black 5 of 6/JG6 Fw. Walter Budde wounded - Herpy 3. Fw 190 A8 171703 yellow 7 of 7/JG 6 Fw. Fritz Buchholz wounded - Rouen.
Hope this helps the list only shows where a pilot was killed/wounded/missing so there could be other losses, Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: Combat West Rouen on 26 08 1944
Many thanks
Yes I know all these losses , but which allied unit was involved in the dog fight ? This is my main question sinvce many years and I do not have found the answer up to now . Eric |
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Re: Combat West Rouen on 26 08 1944
602 Sqn (Spit IX), 2nd TAF, claimed 2 Fw 190 destroyed and 1 damaged ''West of Beauvais' at 0900. They lost one Spit damaged by a Fw but the pilot managed to force-land in Allied territory.
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Re: Combat West Rouen on 26 08 1944
Hello Chris
Many thanks for this post . It could match as Duclair is circa 120/130 KM west of Beauvais . Two pilots bailed out , one landed on southern bank of the river Seine, one on the northern one . Another one was hit , the pilot beeing wounded . One precision , Fritz Buchholz was hit in the tail , perhaps was it mentionned in any RAF report. Do you have the name of the RAF pilots or any more precise information on this mission . I never search for Spitfire missions as Fritz Buchholz always let me know that he was shot down by mustangs , But I found no trace by any USAAF our RAF mustang units. 9 August 1944 , A fw 190A (G) crashed at Louviers south Rouen or North Evreux at 23:00 . The witnesse remember having seen a dog fight , before the FW 190 crashed near the farm . Do you have any information on this ? In any way many thnaks for your help and suport Eric |
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Re: Combat West Rouen on 26 08 1944
602 Sqn appear to have clashed with elements of I/JG26; according to Cladwell the Gruppen claimed four Spitfires for the loss of one Fw190 (pilot unharmed). II/JG26 also appears to have clashed with Spitfires (416 and 421 Sqn's)' claiming three for the loss of four Fw190's.
'2nd TAF Volume 2' puts the JG6 losses as being caused by US aircraft, but gives no more details. For the 9th August crash are you sure about the time, seems a bit late for a dogfight even in the Summer. Regards, Steve |
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Re: Combat West Rouen on 26 08 1944
Steve ,
it could be also US aircrafts but I never find any information , on this dog fight . The one involving II./JG6 and P-38, on 25 Augut 1944 , is very well known ands detailled (I have US reports for example) , but not 26 August 1944. The second dog fight is not late as the aircraft schot down could have been a FW 190G-3 of I./SKG10 , doing night missions over the beach head and the allied front line , so for me it is not too late , the victor could have been an english night fighter (beaufighter or Mosquito) , but I have no other information The witnesses , heard a dog fight , they ran out of the house and saw the FW 190 in fire , it exploded on impact in the garden and crashed on one of the hangar of the farm . There were no pilot in it (Police report) . A The body of a german pilot was found later in the wood on ther nearby hill. Eric |
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