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Old 25th August 2018, 17:18
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Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

Georg Kämpfer flying Zieldarstellung unit unknown. Crash 23 july 1944 at Märkisch Friedland.
Looking for the unit.

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Old 25th August 2018, 19:30
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Re: Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

The aircraft was a Do 217E-4 WNr. in the 4200 range, the unit was 4./JGr West.
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Re: Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

Hi Gerhard.

Thank's a lot.
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Re: Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

I have this as TL+JW as Do217E-4 as W/Nr.52428 with JGr.West as crashing on this date but source unknown
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Re: Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

FB Kämpfer states clearly TL+IW.
I do not have any aircraft within TL+J range.
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Re: Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

The Wn is given as 248, interpr. as 4248

Märkisch friedland FP S Mausfall überschl, b, Durchstart

Kämpfer georg uffz t 280423-Karlsruhe
Reinke willi uffz
Wurm friedrich uffz

Kämpfer died, but the others two.. ??

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Re: Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

Hi Rémi.

FB only states Absturz mit tödlichem Ausgang. Motorschaden.
And only Reinke is mentioned as Begleiter.

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Re: Loss Do 217 E-4 TL+IW 23 july 1944

I now have the source to my (very old) information. On the Luftwaffe Research Group site Charles Bavarois gives the following - Do217E-4 W/Nr.4248 TL+JW - Stabskompanie JGr.West Crew as Uffz.Georg Kinpfer (sic Kampfer); Uffz.Friedrich Wurm; Uffz.Willi Reinke all injured but Kampfer later died from his injuries in Hospital. The source was WASt.
The correct Stkz should be TL+IW as stated in Kampfer's Flugbuch. Sometimes in official documents (re.Wast) the I was sometimes switched to J.
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