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Old 1st December 2018, 17:44
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Re: Missing B-24

http://www.454thbombgroup.it/AAIR%20...s/42-95244.jpg
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Old 1st December 2018, 22:20
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Re: Missing B-24

18.12.1944 454th BG loses B-24 no 42-52264 (737 Bsq).

Pilot - Wolf John K. - MACR 10686.


My request - Does exist any MACR for B-24 no 42-95244 from 23.10.1944 ???
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Old 1st December 2018, 22:39
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Re: Missing B-24

There would be no MACR as the 23rd October event was an accident.
However there must be an Accident Report.
Craig Fuller would perhaps have it and you can purchase it from him via his AAIR website.

https://www.aviationarchaeology.com
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Old 1st December 2018, 22:55
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Re: Missing B-24

Alex thanks for the info.
I will try to write to Craig.
This report If exist can be more explain about this plane.
I try to get it.
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Old 1st December 2018, 23:30
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Re: Missing B-24

Detail in Craig's List gives D = Damage to a/c as follows
D -4
4 = Destroyed/Major repair - Mid 1944 and earlier.
So as October was past mid year( my opinion) the result would have been "destroyed".

Also
MACR in Fold3 for J.K.Wolff is 10686, 28 pages for 42-52264.

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Old 1st December 2018, 23:39
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Re: Missing B-24

I don't have Escape statement of third plane lost on that day, although I did not went through all reels.

It is very probable that third plane missing on that day landed on some friendly airfield and came back to base few days later. In case of Yugoslavia, in Zadar of Vis airfield, or somewhere near Soviet lines.
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Old 2nd December 2018, 02:40
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Re: Missing B-24

There may be two possibilities,

736 Bomber Squadron
A/C SERIAL UNKNOWN
Pilot
Henry A. LANGE.

AND

736 Bomber Squadron
A/C SERIAL UNKNOWN
Pilot
Francis A. MYERS.
Co Pilot
Henry A. LANGE.

Could not find Lange's enlistment details but did I believe find Myers.
Myers, Francis A.
Air Corps
15328300
Enlisted 02/02/1943
Indiana.

ALEX

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Old 2nd December 2018, 08:24
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Re: Missing B-24

Short info about Henry A. Lange :


https://www.454bg.org/lange-henry-l3389-454bg.cfm


Lange - kneeling third from the left


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Old 2nd December 2018, 14:36
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Re: Missing B-24

The operational sheets were printed in December 1944 , there was not a 3rd
Lib lost on that day , period . My records which were produced after WWII
do not show a third 454th loss on that .

PS: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8841132/donald-eugene-ault

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Old 2nd December 2018, 15:55
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Re: Missing B-24

Hi

researcher111 - Very strange. The question is why ???
Why once three Liberator is lost and second time only two?
Very strange for me.

Maybe this third plane for example had emergency landing for example on the Vis and after one , maybe two days returned. First this plane was missing but in the next documents when they was knowing about situation this plane it was skipped as lost.


Henry A. Lange:
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