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He 59 WNr 170
Hi
The aircraft served with 2./SAGr 125 but does anyone know when it was built or lost (if this is the case). Similarly was a Vkz ever applied to the a/c or did it retain its Skz throughout its service? TIA Adam |
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
A He 59 with W.Nr. 170 never existed, nor did Aufkl.Fl.Gruppe 2./125 ever operate a He 59. This Staffel initially used He 114, then converted to Ar 196 in July 1941. The W.Nr. 170 was most likely an Ar 196.
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
Hi Seaplanes
Thanks for the info. Although the LEMB Stammkennzeichen DB does list an He 59 "DK+BS" as serving with 2./SAGr 125 in July 1941. There was also an eBay pic a little while ago of this aircraft with '170' clearly shown on the tail of the a/c. Any further help sorting this out would be appreciated regards Adam |
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
Hello!
For what it is worth. Hannu Valtonen's "Lufwaffen pohjoinen sivusta" gives He 95B DK+BS as WNr 2584. Soviet fighters strafed the Ruissalo seaplane station at Turku town in July 23th, 1941. They managed to damage also DK+BS. Is the picture of BK+BS still availabe on net? Do you have the link? Cheers, Kari |
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
He 59 W.Nr. 2584 DK+BS was a He 59E. This aircraft belonged to 9. Seenotstaffel but was a part of a detachment from this Staffel for operations in the eastern Baltics and Bay of Finland. The aircraft just happened to be at the same seaplane station as 2./125 when damaged on 23.07.41.
As for the number 170 on the tail fin of a He 59 does not automatically indicate the W.Nr. It could as well be an internal numbering in a training unit. No He 59 W.Nr. did contain the numbers 170 as part of a W.Nr. |
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
Sorry, small mistake. The He 59E DK+BS W.Nr. 2584 was at Pansio seaplane station near Turku, Finland, when damaged on 23.07.1941. At the same station was He 114 aircraft of Aufkl.Fl.Staffel 1./125 and not 2./125. The He 114 aircraft of 1./125 had been taken over from 2./125 during July 1941 as soon as the latter unit could replace them with Ar 196.
Staffel 1./125 had initially been equipped solely with He 60 aircraft, but from late June or early July operated a mix of He 60 and He 114 until the unit transferred to List on 7.11.1941 for conversion to BV 138. Hope this does not sound too confusing. |
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
Thank you both for the corrections. I just saw the 170 on the tail of the a/c and assumed it was a partial WNr.
Any idea on how badly damaged the a/c was during the strafing run? regards Adam |
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
Hi Adam !
Can you make a llarger scan of the photo of DK+BS, I seems to have missed this one. Regards Seaplanes |
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Re: He 59 WNr 170
Hi Seaplanes,
If you PM me your email address I will scan and send it to you. Regards Adam |
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