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Claims and losses JG51
Hello,
I am looking for the details of claims and looses Stab, I and IV Gruppe Jagdgeschwader 51 which fought in Pommern from january to april 1945. If anybody can provide this information I would be greatly appreciated. Arek |
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Re: Claims and losses JG51
Losses of Stab, I. and IV./JG 51 extracted from GQM loss listes (data is only available from 1 Jan to 22 Feb, and even between these dates is not certified to be complete):
Verband Datum Truppenteil Ort Ursache Flgzg. Muster Werknr. u. Kennzeichen Bruch in % Name Dstgrad Luftflotte 6 1945.01.12 IV./J.G.51 Modlin Luftkampf Bf 109 G-14 512142 100 Bauer Lt. Luftflotte 6 1945.01.21 IV./J.G.51 unbekannt unbekannt Bf 109 G-6 19459 100 Bischoff Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.01.23 I./J.G.51 Pl.Qu.95595 nach Notlandung auf Eisfläche eingebrochen Bf 109 G-14 413847 100 Wagner Lt. Luftflotte 6 1945.01.23 I./J.G.51 unbekannt unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 510890 100 Schwarz Obgfr. Luftflotte 6 1945.01.23 I./J.G.51 unbekannt unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 413834 100 Reschke Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.01.23 I./J.G.51 unbekannt unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 785017 100 Eisenlohr Lt. Luftflotte 6 1945.01.23 I./J.G.51 Fl.Pl. Danzig-Langfuhrt Bruchlandung infolge Motorstörung Bf 109 G-14 510949 70 Luftflotte 6 1945.01.23 I./J.G.51 Fl.Pl. Danzig-Langfuhrt Bruchlandung infolge Schlechtwetter Bf109 G14 510906 10 Luftflotte 6 1945.01.24 IV./J.G.51 Fl.Pl. Danzig-Langfuhrt Rollschaden Bf109 G14 511492 30 Luftflotte 6 1945.01.24 IV./J.G.51 Fl.Pl. Danzig-Langfuhrt Technische Mängel Bf109 G6 165572 10 Luftflotte 6 1945.01.25 I./J.G.51 von eigener Truppe gesprengt Bf 109 G-14 413884 100 Luftflotte 6 1945.02.03 I./J.G.51 westlich Danzig-Langfuhr Absturz infol e Bedienungsfehler Bf 109 G-14 46275 100 Piller Fw. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.03 I./J.G.51 Pl.Qu.84255 Flakbeschuß Bf 109 G-14 41384 100 Belz Flg. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.05 I./J.G.51 unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 464922 100 Sassenberg Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.05 IV./J.G.51 Bedienungsfehler bei Landung Bf 109 G-14 512638 85 Kramp Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.05 IV./J.G.51 unbekannt Bf 109 G-6 441138 100 Höng Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.10 Stab/J.G.51 Bruch beim Start Fw 190 A-8 739528 90 Schiller Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.13 IV./J.G.51 Pl.Qu.74418 Luftkampf Bf 109 G-6 440545 100 Steinhag Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.13 IV./J.G.51 Pl.Qu.74442 nach Notlandung infolge Flakbeschuß gesprengt Bf 109 G-6 167284 100 Luftflotte 6 1945.02.15 Stab/J.G.51 Bruchlandung Fw 190 A-8 732109 70 Busse Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.15 Stab/J.G.51 Überschlag bei Landung Fi156 5744 35 Luftflotte 6 1945.02.15 I./J.G.51 eigener Flakbeschuß Bf109 G14 512628 folgt Naumann Lt. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.15 IV./J.G.51 unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 511437 100 Naumann Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.15 IV./J.G.51 Notlandung, von eigener Truppe gesprengt Bf 109 G-14 167195 100 Blusko Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.15 IV./J.G.51 Absturz nach Luftkampf Bf 109 G-6 781118 100 Luftflotte 6 1945.02.16 I./J.G.51 unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 465303 100 Baumann Uffz. Luftflotte 6 1945.02.16 IV./J.G.51 bei Landung ausgebrochen Bf109 G6 441465 30 Luftflotte 6 1945.02.17 I./J.G.51 Flakbeschuß Bf109 G14 785029 30 Luftflotte 6 1945.02.17 I./J.G.51 Absturz infolge Jägerbeschuß Bf 109 G-14 780922 100 Henrichsmeier Ofhr. |
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Re: Claims and losses JG51
Claims of Stab, I. and IV./JG 51 extracted from a list by Jim Perry that was once available from Tony Wood website (again no claim to be complete, but at least covering the whole period)
Date Rank Fname Lname Unit JG Claimed Location Time ClaimNo Unit_Cl RLM Prim_Source 16/01/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten 3. JG 51 Abschuß - - 140 - yes Obermaier 16/01/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten 3. JG 51 Abschuß - - 141 - yes Obermaier 11/02/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Jak-9 - - 4 - yes FB 16/02/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten 3. JG 51 Il-2 - - 146 - yes Obermaier 16/02/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten 3. JG 51 Il-2 - - 147 - yes Obermaier 16/02/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten 3. JG 51 Il-2 - - 148 - yes Obermaier 16/02/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten 3. JG 51 Il-2 - - 149 - yes Obermaier 16/02/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten 3. JG 51 Il-2 - - 150 - yes Obermaier 18/02/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 18/02/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 18/02/1945 Ofw. Josef Gabl III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 18/02/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Jak-9 - - 5 - yes FB 20/02/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 20/02/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 20/02/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 23/02/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - 175 - yes Internet 28/02/1945 Ofw. Horst Petzschler Stab JG 51 La-5 * SE Graudenz - 19 - yes DW: Day Fighter 11/03/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 LaGG-5 - - 6 - yes FB 18/03/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 18/03/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 18/03/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - - - yes Internet 19/03/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Jak-9 - - 7 - yes FB 22/03/1945 Oblt. Eberhard Burath 9. JG 51 Pe-2 95636 10.45-11.30 - - yes J/K: Bf 109K 25/03/1945 Oblt. Bernhard Vechtel 14. JG 51 Abschuß - - 100 - yes Obermaier 14/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 99 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 14/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 100 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 15/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 P-39 - - 101 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 15/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 P-39 - - 102 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 15/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 103 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 16/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 104 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 16/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 105 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 16/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Pe-2 - - 8 - yes FB 16/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 9 - yes FB 17/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 LaGG-5 - - 10 - yes FB 18/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Il-2 - - 106 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 18/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 107 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 18/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 108 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 18/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Il-2 - - 109 - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.220 18/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 11 - yes FB 18/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 12 - yes FB 19/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - 13 - yes FB 20/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Il-2 - - 14 - yes FB 24/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - - - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.221 24/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - - - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.221 24/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - - - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.221 24/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - - - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.221 25/04/1945 Hptm. Joachim Brendel Stab III. JG 51 Abschuß - - 189 - yes Internet 25/04/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten Stab IV. JG 51 Abschuß - - 172 - yes Obermaier 25/04/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten Stab IV. JG 51 Abschuß - - 173 - yes Obermaier 25/04/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten Stab IV. JG 51 Abschuß - - 174 - yes Obermaier 25/04/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten Stab IV. JG 51 Abschuß - - 175 - yes Obermaier 25/04/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten Stab IV. JG 51 Abschuß - - 176 - yes Obermaier 25/04/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten Stab IV. JG 51 Abschuß - - 177 - yes Obermaier 25/04/1945 Oblt. Günther Josten Stab IV. JG 51 Abschuß - - 178 - yes Obermaier 27/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Jak-3 - - - - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.221 29/04/1945 FhjOfw. Heinz Marquardt 13. JG 51 Il-2 - - - - yes DW: Day Fighters; p.221 29/04/1945 Ltn. Alfred Rauch StSt. JG 51 Abschuß - - 60 - yes Obermaier 30/04/1945 Uffz. Heinz Radlauer 13. JG 51 Il-2 - - 15 - yes FB |
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Re: Claims and losses JG51
Hi,
Thanks for your replies.Very nice datas. We know more about claims Ofw. Horst Petzschler from Stab JG 51? Her reported shot down seven soviet planes in Westpreussen area: one in February 1945: 1 La-5 28 February 1945 SE Graudenz and six in March 1945 (but witchout daily datas): 1 IL-2m3 March 1945 SW-Zinlen(Zinten?) 1 Yak-9 March 1945 NW Danzig 1 IL-2m3 March 1945 SO-Preuss Stargard 1 LaGG-7 March 1945 SO-Gotenhaven 1 Yak-3 March 1945 S-Danzig 1 Yak-3 March 1945 NW-Gotenhaven Regards Arek |
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Re: Claims and losses JG51
Hi Laurent
I compared the W.Nr. and I see that many G-14 has G-6 W.Nr. one example. "Luftflotte 6 1945.01.23 I./J.G.51 unbekannt unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 413834 100 Reschke Uffz." and one example is in a G-14 block "Luftflotte 6 1945.02.15 IV./J.G.51 Absturz nach Luftkampf Bf 109 G-6 781118 100" strange Regards Peter van Gogh |
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Re: Claims and losses JG51
Hi
I have some Brendel/Josten claims:- Brendel= 4th March 1945 Il-2 his 174th 4th March 1945 Il-2 his 175th 8th March 1945 Pe-2 at 1432 hrs his 176th 9th March 1945 unknown type at 12?? hrs his 177th 9th March 1945 unknown type at 12?? hrs his 178th Josten= 10th March 1945 Boston at 1212 hrs his 154th 10th March 1945 Boston at 1215 hrs his 155th 10th March 1945 LaGG-3 at 1243 hrs his 156th As Horst Petzschler's memory of claims have proved to be unreliable during the period covered by the Micro Films, I guess we should believe that they are unreliable for the period not covered by the Micro Films i.e 1945, guess only the discovery of his log-book will answer his 1945 claims! Regards Johannes P.S Seems that Brendel just has the edge over Kittel with regards as to who is the top Il-2 ace! |
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