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Old 20th January 2005, 20:17
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KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40

Does anyone have the Namentliche Verlustemeldung for KG 30 for the above months or confirmation of what was lost?
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Old 20th January 2005, 21:18
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This is what I have

Hi Chris,
the info I have is from the Genst. Gen. Qu. 6. Abt.

09-10-39
I./KG 30
North Sea
Missing
Ju 88
Obltn. Kahl MIA
3 Crew MIA

16-10-39
I./KG 30
Firth of Forth
Shot down by FLt. G. Pinkerton
in a Spitfire of No. 602 SQ. Fell into sea at 1445 hrs.
Ju 88 A-1 4D+AK 100%
Hptm. Pohle POW
Gruppenkommandeur
Uffz. Seydel K. KIA
body recovered
Gefr. Scxhleicher A. KIA
body recovered
1 Crew MIA

16-10-39
1./KG 30
Westerland
Crash shortly after takeoff
Ju 88 45%

16-10-39
1./KG 30
Firth of Forth
Shot down by 603 Sqn. fell into sea 4 mi. N Port Seton at 1530 hrs. Aircraft later recovered
Ju 88 A-1 4D+DH 100%
Obltn. Storp H. POW
Fw. Köhnke H. POW
Fw. Hielscher H. POW
Above airman captured injured by trawler Dayspring
Obgefr. Krämer MIA

17-10-39
1./KG 30
Scapa Flow
Shot down by AA fire, exploded
Ju 88 A-1 4D+EK 100%
Obltn. Flaemig MIA
Uffz. Attenburger MIA
Obgefr. Faust MIA
Uffz. Ambrosius F. WIA POW

21-10-39
I./KG 30
AF Westerland
Hit by Bf 109 of 1./JGr. 101
Ju 88 880019 80%
2 Crew KIA
1 Crew WIA

25-11-39
KG 30
Kiel-Holtenau
After installation of new engines took off without test flight. 3 min. after takeoff crash. Was en route to Westerland. Possible engine problems.
Ju 88 55 100
3 Crew KIA
1 Civilian mechanic KIA

06-12-39
I./KG 30
Ludwigslust
Gear collapsed on landing, pilot error
Ju 88 025 50%

18-12-39
1./KG 30
Westerland
During landing, tire blew
Ju 88 35%


22-12-39
1./KG 30
Enemy mission
Damaged by fighter defenses
Ju 88 50%

01-01-40
1./KG 30
North Sea
Shot down by British fighters
Ju 88 100%
Ogefr. Kasiske KIA
3 Crew MIA


17-01-40
5./KG 30
Perleberg
Left engine failed during go-around
Ju 88 70%


19-01-40
I./KG 30
Greifswald
Gear collapsed while being towed
Ju 88 30%

19-01-40
II./KG 30
AF Perleberg
Returned single engine to airfield. Shortly before reaching runway crash, possible low speed
Ju 88 100%
3 Crew KIA
1 Crew WIA

03-02-40
1./KG 30
Moray Firth
AA fire from Minesweeper aircraft sank in sea
Ju 88 A-1 100
Hptm. Rosenthal Heinz F POW
Staffelkapitän
Gefr. Dirks Karl B POW
Uffz. Freund Reinhard Bf POW
Gefr. Nussbaum Karl Bs POW

09-02-40
II./KG 30
England
Forced landing at sea
Ju 88 100%
3 Crew MIA
1 Crew KIA

15-02-40
I./KG 30
Westerland
Snowdrift
Ju 88 75%

15-02-40
I./KG 30
Westeralnd
Snowdrift
Ju 88 40%


22-02-40
II./KG 30
Perleberg
Crash during bombing practice
Ju 88 100%
Ltn. Meyer KIA
Ing. Glund? KIA
2 Crew KIA

06-03-40
I./KG 30
near unreadable
Forced landing, both engines failed
Do 17 P 55%

06-03-40
II./KG 30
Westerland
Crash landing due to poor visibility, windshield iced up
Ju 88 40%

08-03-40
3./KG 30
40 mi E Orkney
Did not return from mission Shot down by 111 Sqn.
Ju 88 100%
Obltn. v. Siebert POW
3 Crew POW
Denmark


10-03-40
I./KG 30
AF Garz
Loss of directional control during landing
Ju 88 60%

13-03-40
II./KG 30
Oldenburg
Flared too high
Ju 88 40%

13-03-40
6./KG 30
Westerland
Bomb explosion during loading One aircraft was ready to depart. While the last 250 Kg bomb was being loaded it exploded.
Ju 88 100%
4 Crew KIA

13-03-40
6./KG 30
Westerland
See above
Ju 88 40%
3 Crew KIA

13-03-40
6./KG 30
Westerland
See above
Ju 88 10%

13-03-40
6./KG 30
Westerland
See above
Ju 88 minor

13-03-40
6./KG 30
Westerland
See above
Ju 88 minor
1 Crew WIA

16-03-40
I./KG 30
Unknown
Did not return from mission
Ju 88 100%
4 Crew MIA

29-03-40
6./KG 30
Creswell Bay
AA fire, crashed into sea
Ju 88 A-1 4D+AP 100%
Obltn. Quadt R. KIA
Fw. Hartung G. KIA
Uffz. Hesse E. KIA
above bodies recovered from sea
1 Crew MIA

02-04-40
Stab/KG 30
Great Britain
Unknown
Ju 88 100%
Not reported


09-04-40
4./KG 30 correction 4 Crew MIA

09-04-40
III./KG 30
Hptm. Mahrenholtz KIA
Body washed ashore on Danish coast, on 14-08-40

10-04-40
KG 30
Unknown
Unknown
Ju 88 A 100%
Unknown

10-04-40
KG 30
Unknown
Unknown
Ju 88 A 100%
Unknown


17-04-40
3./KG 30
Island of Namor
Forced landing
Ju 88 A 100%
Crew captured and brought to Great Britain


There are gaps between 21 Mar 40 and 02 Jun 40 in the loss report I have I do not known if they are available at all. Whould love to find out though. Some info in the above reports are from the Blitz series as well.

Hope this helps,

Norbert
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Old 21st January 2005, 19:21
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Thanks for your efforts which match with what I have. However, there are omissions for example 3 Apr 40 when Lt Fritz Koch (4 Staffel) and Oblt Karl Overweg and Uffz Willi Erkens (5 Staffel) were lost, the latter being victims of a combat with a Sunderland. I have all the NVMs for May and June 40 plus all for Z/KG 30 if you are interested. My aim is to try and find out what exactly they were up to oct 39-Apr 40
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Thanks Chris,
yes I'm inertested. You could just e-mail them to me if this is o.k. This will allow me to update my database.

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Old 22nd January 2005, 16:03
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Mahrenholtz of III./KG 30

Hi there
Allow me to correct a minor piece of info with regard to Mahrenholtz of III./KG 30 killed on 9/4 1940.
His body was found near Thyboron in Denmark on 27/7 1940 and was laid to rest in Lindholm cemetery near Aalborg West on 30/7 1940. In the mid sixties he was moved to Grove cemetery near Fliegerhorst Grove.

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Ergänzungskampfgruppe 4 (ErgKGr 4) /KG30

Norbert/Chris

Perhaps you can have a look at my post on the recovered Ju88 from Lake Jonsvatnet.

Belonged to KG30 supposedly. No listing.

Belonged to ErgKGr4 previously. Is there a listing?

regards

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Old 23rd August 2005, 22:55
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Re: KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40

Hello!

I have a Wehrpass plus other papers belonging to a Uffz. Hans Heinrich Selk.
He was a pilot in the 3. Staffel KG 30.
on October 8. 1939 the Wehrpass says that he is "Tödlich verunglückt", but I do not know the circumstances.
I do not know, if this is any help at all Chris, but there You have it.
All the best and thank You for some excellent books over the years.
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Old 24th August 2005, 20:53
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Re: KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40

Hi Chris: A bit off topic.With regard to a thread you posted a year or so ago,about Z/KG-30 personnel. Wondering if you could confirm if Oblt. Gerhard Frhr.Grote had flown with Z/KG-30, and if he, per chance, transferred to the Schlacht arm when Z/KG-30 was redesignated as a NF unit ? Cheers. Dean
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Re: KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40

Grote was on Z/KG 30 and killed in an accident 31 Mar 40 together with an Uffz Wilhelm Zugst
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