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Old 31st August 2026, 13:50
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Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

This aircraft was flown by the St Kap of 7./KG 51, Hptm Joachim Sommer. Target was PlQ 76895. It crashed on the western edge of Kijewskoje (Kaliningrad) in the afternoon of the above date killing all 4 crew. Can anyone say the reason for its loss-I am presuming Flak as no mention of fighters is made in the III./KG 51 KTB
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Re: Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

Hello Chris,

according to Tagesabschlussmeldung der Lfl.4, Ju88 Hptm Sommer nach Inf.-Beschuss aufschlag auf eigenem Gebiet (RL2/II-848 Bl.168 verso)

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Re: Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

Thanks Andrey so ground fire


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Re: Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

Hello, just a little correction, there are several places called Kijewskoje in German (see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kijewskoje) and a combat loss in April 1943 for 7./KG 51 was probably near the one located in Kuban rather than in East Prussia.
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Re: Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

Another reference says target was troops in Quadrat 85 145
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Re: Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

PQ 76895/34 Ost was Kijewskoje, 45km NO Anapa (NW Noworossisk)
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Re: Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

Hptm. (Major) Joachim Sommer, 05.01.1916, пилот, EK.II,I, погиб
Fw. Willy Meyer, наблюдатель, погиб
Fw. Karl Lang (Lampe), бортрадист, погиб
Ogefr. Herbert (Gerber) Vogt, бортстрелок, погиб
5 апреля 1943 года Ju 88A-4 Werk-Nr. 1145 7./KG.51 в Pl.Qu. 76895, западнее Киевской, в 15 км северо-западнее Крымской (Краснодарский край, Россия).
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Re: Loss of Ju 88A-4, 1145, 9K+ZR, 7./KG 51, 4 Apr 43

Hptm. (Major) Joachim Sommer, 05.01.1916, пилот, EK.II,I, погиб
Fw. Willy Meyer, наблюдатель, погиб
Fw. Karl Lang (Lampe), бортрадист, погиб
Ogefr. Herbert (Gerber) Vogt, бортстрелок, погиб
5 апреля 1943 года Ju 88A-4 Werk-Nr. 1145 7./KG.51 в Pl.Qu. 76895, западнее Киевской, в 15 км северо-западнее Крымской (Краснодарский край, Россия).
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