Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Japanese and Allied Air Forces in the Far East

Japanese and Allied Air Forces in the Far East Please use this forum to discuss the Air War in the Far East.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 24th July 2020, 18:47
Leendert Leendert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,741
Leendert will become famous soon enough
Japanese balloon shoot down by USAAF P-63 - March 1945

Not sure if in right section, but here goes.

In March 1945 a 4th Air Force P-63 Kingcobra pilot achieved the only 'kill' in this type in USAAF service. P-63 was based at Walla Walla, Washington State, on the border with Oregon.
Victim was a Japanese fire balloon that was chased by 3 x P-63s from Oregon to Nevada, with some fuel stops on the way.

There are quite some websites about the Japanese balloon attacks on the US West Coast that tell the P-63 story, but the name of the somewhat unique pilot here remains a mystery.

(The P-38 pilot who earlier shot down a balloon over California was 1/Lt Clinton Bergen)

Any lead or info welcome, thanks.

Regards,
Leendert
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25th July 2020, 21:07
RSwank RSwank is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bloomington, IN USA
Posts: 2,020
RSwank is on a distinguished road
Re: Japanese balloon shoot down by USAAF P-63 - March 1945

I think Walla Walla Army Air Field at this time was a combat crew training center for B-24 crews. I believe P-63s were used to train the B-24 gunners. One type of P-63 (called the RP-63) had extra armor and carried no guns. The B-24 gunners actually fired frangible bullets at them.

https://www.airspacemag.com/military...t-me-57581298/

See page 1 and page 13 about the RP-63
http://www.pmlaa.org/newsletters/2003-03.pdf

For the curious, Joseph F Cotton's MACR: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/90902611


The other type was a standard P-63 and the gunners used camera type devices on their guns to photograph the attacking fighters as they aimed and "fired" their guns. It is possible that the P-63s were of the second type and were part of the base training unit at Walla Walla.

Last edited by RSwank; 26th July 2020 at 16:41.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 26th July 2020, 13:54
RSwank RSwank is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bloomington, IN USA
Posts: 2,020
RSwank is on a distinguished road
Re: Japanese balloon shoot down by USAAF P-63 - March 1945

Leendert, I think the 423rd Base Unit (or 423rd CCTS -Combat Crew Training Station-Heavy) was the training unit at Walla Walla.

http://usafunithistory.com/PDF/0400/...ASE%20UNIT.pdf

Look at the accident list here: https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/...y/Mar1945S.htm

Note that some B-24 accidents involved B-24s at Walla Walla. Also look at all the P-63 accidents and how most were assigned to training or base units.

Or this one: https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/...y/Feb1945S.htm, which shows P-63 42-69086 crashing on 2/27/1945. It was assigned to the 423rd BU at Walla Walla.

Last edited by RSwank; 29th July 2020 at 02:27.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bombing of individual ships at sea by Radar? Felix C Allied and Soviet Air Forces 8 29th September 2015 13:33
Is this a true statement about the B24? tcolvin Allied and Soviet Air Forces 52 24th January 2014 17:55
U.S Loss Reports for crashes in the UK Melvin Brownless Allied and Soviet Air Forces 4 6th August 2012 12:49
USAAF claims on March 31 1945 ETO Michal Allied and Soviet Air Forces 3 21st October 2007 11:29
Forum Calendar...help me fill it please Ruy Horta General 16 16th March 2005 18:23


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 19:28.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net