Ju 52 letter codes

[HGabor]

Hi Folks,
Do you know the FULL letter codes of the following Ju 52 losses:


WNr.:

5441 (10./TG.2)
7301 (11./TG.3)
10015 (11./TG.3)
10017 (?/TG.3)
131146 (11./TG.3)
640407 (?/TG.4)
641369 (10./TG.2)

Thanks,
Gabor

[RT]

Lost of 44/45 ??

Rémi

[HGabor]

1945.
Gabor

[RT]

Not so much, data are scarse for that period no NVM

5441 (10./TG.2) nil
7301 (11./TG.3) possibly DG+SO
10015 (11./TG.3) nil
10017 (?/TG.3) III.TG3 Do you know is seated Uij-Molomsok ??

131146 (11./TG.3) nil

640407 (?/TG.4) G6+MT 9.TG4
641369 (10./TG.2) nil , cause =Katyusha


Rémi

[HGabor]

Thanks Rémi,
Much appreciated. Uij malomsok is probably Új (New) Malomsok:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Mal...2!4d17.3930343

Cheers,
Gabor

[uschu4711]

hi


10017 NI+MP 17.01.1945 100% III/TG3

10015 NI+MN 01.1945 25%

hi again


131146 RP+EF too 1Z+AH 17.02.1944 100%

641369 ? too 8T+OU 08.01.1945 100%



regards

[HGabor]

Hi Folks,
On January 12, 1945 TG.3 lost a Ju 52 at Tököl (Budapest-S), which was delivering artillery shells, medical equipments, cartridges to the encircled defenders of Budapest. The plane was downed by Pavel M. Dolgarev, La-5 ace (17 VA, 116 IAP). The plane crashed in an orchard and exploded. During the 1995 recovery lots of ammo, AND eg. a fingerbone was found at the controls, with a ring on it showing: "JS". This positively identified the crew of Ofw. Johann Siegling pilot. The ring and the fingerbone obviously belonged to him. A burned watch still showed 11:00, - the time of the daytime crash.

The other lost Ju 52 this day was WNr.7301 of TG.3, which crashed at Stefánia avenue in downtown (Buda)Pest between the Ajtósi Dürer sor and the Thököly avenue.

What were the letter codes (and the WNr. of the first) and these downed Ju 52s? Did WNr.:7301 have just old codes, or newer 4V+?? too?

What do we know about the loss of Ju 52: TG.2, WNr.:501434 on January 28, 1945?

Thanks,
Gabor

[HGabor]

Thank you. Is it possible that these Ju 52s were lost without the official markings of TG.3 (4V+..)?

10017 NI+MP 17.01.1945 100% III/TG3
10015 NI+MN 01.1945 25%

In my records WNr.:131146 was lost on January 6, 1945 so 17.02.1944 seems to be too early. Can this be just a typo?

Thanks,
Gabor

[uschu4711]

Hi again,


looked by now Pirkl too, but there nothing more about Kennung



from Archiv B. Pirkl:

131146 Ju52/3mg8eRP+EF Junkers1Z+AHLUFTWAFFE01.1944FB Ramdor: 03.01.1944 FT-Kurzabnahme , 17.02.1944: 1./T.G.1 Flug Tschernaja- Kamenka (100% zerstört) 3 Verletzte (WAST-Liste)



regards btw if you like here the link to Pirckls JU52list https://ju52archiv.de/Ju52.pdf

[Rottler]

Hello Gabor,

to your post #7 and the loss of Ju 52 501434:
Gen.Qu. loss return 16 Feb 1945 item 103
28.1. II./TG 2 Feindflug, Ort: Budapest, Ursache: Flakbeschuß, Ju 52 501434 damage 10%. Bf Uffz Herbert Holder verletzt.

To your post #8
10017 NI+MP 17.01.1945 100% III./TG 3
In the Gen.Qu. loss return 3 Feb 1945 item 79 is listed:
27.1. III./TG 3 Uij-Molomsok, Fahrwerkschaden, damage 25%.

10015 NI+MN 01.45 25%
In the Gen.Qu. loss return 4 Feb 1945 item 110 is listed:
17.1. III./TG 3 kein Feindflug, Ort: nicht gemeldet, Ursache: Absturz, Aufschlagbrand Ju 52 10015 damage 100%.
F Uffz Glatter verletzt
Bf Uffz Müller +
Bm Uffz Wölfer +
Bs Obgfr Wehler +.

Regards
Leo