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Old 20th July 2008, 21:05
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Heinz Baer's vic total

Guys:

Might as well ask for this Guy's list as well:

Anybody ever tally Heinz Baer's victory list? As far as I know it's never been posted at Katcha's great experten site but I am hoping somebody has tallied up his score;

TiA

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Old 20th July 2008, 22:03
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

Claim No//Date/ /A/c Type
1 25 09 39 Hawk-75A
2 21 05 40 Spitfire
3 23 05 40 Hurricane
4 18 08 40 Hurricane
5 20 08 40 Spitfire
6 24 08 40 Hurricane
7 29 08 40 Hurricane
8 02 09 40 Hurricane
9 08 09 40 Spitfire
10 09 09 40 Hurricane
11 15 09 40 Spitfire
12 08 11 40 Hurricane
13 08 11 40 Hurricane
14 16 04 41 Hurricane
15 21 04 41 Hurricane
16 06 05 41 Spitfire
17 11 05 41 Spitfire
22 06 41 I 16
18 I 16
19 SB 2
20 SB 2
21 25 06 41 I 16
22 I 16
23 30 06 41 SB 2
24 SB 2
25 SB 2
26 SB 2
27 SB 2
2 07 41 IL2
5 07 41 DB-3
DB-3
MiG-3
6 07 41 Su 2
Su 2
11 07 SB 2
SB 2
SB 2
21 07 41 ?
?
?
?
?
22 07 41 bomb
40 bomb
23 07 Pe-2
23 07 Pe-2
23 07 R-3
24 07 I-18
26 07 R-3
R-3
29 07 bomb
bomb
I 16
9 08 41 bomb
bomb
bomb
60 14 08 41 ?
61 ?
62 ?
73 30 08 41 ?
74 ?
75 ?
76 ?
77 ?
78 ?
79 31 08 41 bomb
80 bomb
ranny
81 28 11 41 SB-3
82 02 12 41 I-18
83 I-18
84 Pe-2
85 I-61
86 05 12 I-61
87 07 12 Pe-2
88 Pe-2
89 10 02 42 Pe2
90 11 02 42

92 16 05 42 LaGG3
93 LaGG3
94 17 05 42 MiG3
95 MiG3
96 MiG3
97 18 05 42 LaGG3
98 LaGG3
99 19 05 42 I 16
100 I 16
101 I 16
102 I 16
103 I 16
104 05 06 42 DB-3
105-112
113 27 06 42 ?

- 11 10 42 Spitfire w.b.
114 13 10 42 Spitfire
115 13 10 42 Spitfire
116 14 10 42 Spitfire
117 17 10 42 Spitfire
118 02 11 42 Spitfire
119 03 11 42 P40
120 03 11 42 P40
121 03 11 42 P40
122 03 11 42 P40
123 03 11 42 P40
124 05 11 42 Spitfire
125 05 11 42 P40
126 09 11 42 P40
127 10 11 42 P40
128 10 11 42 P40
129 11 11 42 P40
130 11 11 42 P40
131 07 12 42 Spitfire
132 07 12 42 Spitfire
133 08 12 42 P40
134 08 12 42 P40
135 10 12 42 P40
136 10 12 42 P40
137 11 12 42 P40
138 14 12 42 P40
139 14 12 42 P40
140 14 01 43 P-40
141 14 01 43 Mitchell
142 14 01 43 Mitchell
143 14 01 43 Spitfire
144 14 01 43 Spitfire
145 21 01 43 P38
146 21 01 43 P38
147 23 01 43 P40
P40
148 25 01 43 P40
149 25 01 43 P40
150 27 01 43 P40
151 27 01 43 P40
152 27 01 43 P40
153 04 02 43 B17
154 04 02 43 B17
155 15 02 43 Spitfire
156 Spitfire
157 26 02 43 P40
158 P40
159 P40
160 P40
161 P40
162 27 02 43 Beaufighter
P-40
163 01 03 43 Spitfire
164 03 03 43 Spitfire
165 Spitfire
166 05 03 43 Spitfire
167 Spitfire
168 06 03 43 P 40
169 P 40
170 07 03 43 P 40
171 10 03 43 P40
172 23 03 43 P40
P40/P-39
173 24 03 43 P40
174 P40
175 ?? 25 03 43 A-20 Boston
175?? 26 03 43 P40
176 16 04 43 Spitfire
19 04 43 Spitfire
177 29 04 43 Spitfire
178 02 12 43 B-17
179 02 12 43 P-38
180 10 02 44 B-17
181 10 02 44 P-47
182 21 02 44 B-17
183 21 02 44 P-51
184 21 02 44
B-17F-20-DL 42-3040 OR*Q ‘Miss Ouachita’ 2Lt Spencer J Osterberg S/D Maj. Heinz Bär (184/221) 21 Feb 44
185 22 02 44 B-17
186 22 02 44 B-17
187 24 02 44 B-24
188 24 02 44 B-24
189 25 02 44 B-17 HSS
- 25 02 44 B-17 eV
190 25 02 44 B-17 HSS
191 25 02 44 B-24
192 3 03 44 P-51
193 6 03 44 B-17
194 6 03 44 B-17
195 6 03 44 B-17
196 29 03 44 P-51
197 29 03 44 P-51
198 08 04 44 B-24
199 11 04 44 B-17
200 22 04 44 B-24
201 29 04 44 P-47
202 29 04 44 B-24
203 07 08 44 P-47
204 01 01 45 Typhoon
205 01 01 45 Typhoon
206 19 03 45 P-51 Me-262
207 21 03 45 B-24 Me-262
208 24 03 45 B-24 Me-262
209 24 03 45 P-51 Me-262
27 03 45 P-47
P-47
P-47
210 04 04 45 P-51 Me-262
211 09 04 45 B-26 Me-262
212 09 04 45 B-26 Me-262
213 12 04 45 B-26
214 18 04 45 P-47 Me-262
215 18 04 45 P-47 Me-262
216 19 04 45 P-51 Me-262
217 19 04 45 P-51 Me-262
218 27 04 45 P-47 Me-262?
219 P-47 Me-262?
220 29 04 45 P-47 Me-262?
221 29 04 45 Mosquito Me-262?

I have a better list, but the reseracher who shared it with me won't allow me to share it with others.

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Old 20th July 2008, 22:34
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

Rob:

Thanks...whomever that other researcher is, he ought to pass the tally over to Petr Kacha & have him post in on his Experten site!

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Old 21st July 2008, 04:09
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

I presume you have noticed the link above to Tony Wood's lists??
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Old 21st July 2008, 07:52
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim P. View Post
I presume you have noticed the link above to Tony Wood's lists??
In the words of the famous Greek Philosopher: "Link?? WHAT link??"


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Old 15th February 2010, 22:54
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

Hi Nick

Oskar-Heinz had a number of unconfirmed in his total, which i have as 211. Send me your e.mail address and I'll forward his full list with Date/time/Altitude/Place/Type e.tc.

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P.S after a big fall out with goring he had trouble getting his confirmed and was refused the Brilleten seven times because of Gorings intervention!
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Old 16th February 2010, 12:21
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

Hi,

I'm an author of Bär's claim list which is published above. This list is based on Tony Wood's combat claims web page & some other publications. Here is update version 2.0

Johannes, could you share with your list also with me ?


Claim No Date Time A/c Type

1 25 09 39 12:30 Hawk-75A
2 21 05 40 16:20 Spitfire
3 23 05 40 11:10 Hurricane
4 18 08 40 19:45 Hurricane
5 20 08 40 16:20 Spitfire
6 24 08 40 16:20 Hurricane
7 29 08 40 19:45 Hurricane
8 02 09 40 09:15 Hurricane
9 08 09 40 Spitfire
10 09 09 40 Hurricane
11 15 09 40 Spitfire
12 08 11 40 Hurricane
13 08 11 40 Hurricane
14 16 04 41 18:25 Hurricane
15 21 04 41 20:07 Hurricane
16 06 05 41 14:10 Spitfire
17 11 05 41 21:40 Spitfire

- 22 06 41 I 16
18 I 16
19 SB 2
20 SB 2

21 25 06 41 I 16
22 I 16

23 30 06 41 SB 2
24 SB 2
25 SB 2
26 SB 2
27 SB 2

2 07 41 IL2

5 07 41 DB-3
DB-3
MiG-3

6 07 41 Su 2
Su 2

11 07 SB 2
SB 2
SB 2

21 07 41 ?
?
?
?
?

22 07 41 bomb

40 bomb
?
?
?

23 07 41 Pe-2
Pe-2
R-3
?
?

24 07 I-18
?
?
?
50? ?

26 07 R-3
R-3

29 07 bomb
bomb
I 16

9 08 41 bomb
bomb
bomb

60 14 08 41 ?
61 ?
62 ?
?
?










73 30 08 41 ?
74 ?
75 ?
76 ?
77 ?
78 ?

79 31 08 41 Pe-2
80 Pe-2

-wounded-
81 28 11 41 SB-3

82 02 12 41 I-18
83 I-18
84 Pe-2
85 I-61

86 05 12 I-61

87 07 12 Pe-2
88 Pe-2

89 10 02 42 Pe2

90 11 02 42 ?

91 ? ? ?

92 16 05 42 10.35 LaGG3
93 10.40 LaGG3

94 17 05 42 13.05 Ił-2
95 13.35 I-15
96 13.40 I-15

97 18 05 42 12.10 LaGG3
98 16.05 LaGG3

99 19 05 42 9.42 R-5
100 16.42 I 16
101 16.45 I 16
102 16.46 I 16
103 16.50 I 16

104 05 06 42 9.32 DB-3

105 13 06 42 12.35 I-16

106 14 06 42 18.58 I-16
107 19.00 I-16

108 17 06 42 17.35 MBR-2

109 19 06 42 4.17 I-16

110 21 06 42 18.35 I-16

111 18.41 I-16

112 27 06 42 6.34 I-16
113 6.43 I-16

- 11 10 42 Spitfire w.b.
114 13 10 42 07:58 Spitfire
115 13 10 42 08:14 Spitfire
116 14 10 42 17:59 Spitfire
117 17 10 42 Spitfire
118 02 11 42 14:50 Spitfire
119 03 11 42 12:08 P40
120 03 11 42 12:10 P40
121 03 11 42 15:55 P40
122 03 11 42 15:58 P40
123 03 11 42 16:12 P40
124 05 11 42 13:40 Spitfire
125 05 11 42 13:50 P40
126 09 11 42 14:50 P40
127 10 11 42 14:34 P40
128 10 11 42 14:38 P40
129 11 11 42 09:30 P40
130 11 11 42 09 38 P40
131 07 12 42 14:50 Spitfire
132 07 12 42 14:52 Spitfire
133 08 12 42 10:40 P40
134 08 12 42 10:40 P40
135 10 12 42 15:10 P40
136 10 12 42 15:15 P40
137 11 12 42 15:35 P40
138 14 12 42 11:20 P40
139 14 12 42 11:21 P40
140 14 01 43 10:39 P-40
141 14 01 43 10:43 Mitchell
142 14 01 43 10:44 Mitchell
143 14 01 43 14:32 Spitfire
144 14 01 43 14:37 Spitfire
145 21 01 43 15:15 P38
146 21 01 43 15:15 P38
147 23 01 43 11:40 P40
- P40
148 25 01 43 12;35 P40
149 25 01 43 12:38 P40
150 27 01 43 14:48 P40
151 27 01 43 15:01 P40
152 27 01 43 15:05 P40
153 04 02 43 14:20 B17
154 04 02 43 14:25 B17
155 15 02 43 Spitfire
156 Spitfire
157 26 02 43 P40
158 P40
159 P40
160 P40
161 P40
162 27 02 43 Beaufighter
- P-40
163 01 03 43 Spitfire
164 03 03 43 Spitfire
165 Spitfire
166 05 03 43 Spitfire
167 Spitfire
168 06 03 43 P 40
169 P 40
170 07 03 43 P 40
171 10 03 43 P40
172 23 03 43 P40
- P40/P-39
173 24 03 43 P40
174 P40
175/-? 25 03 43 A-20 Boston
175/-? 26 03 43 P40
176 16 04 43 Spitfire
- 19 04 43 Spitfire
177 29 04 43 Spitfire
178 02 12 43 13:06 B-17
179 02 12 43 13:09 P-38
180 10 02 44 11:13 B-17
181 10 02 44 11:18 P-47
182 21 02 44 13:58 B-17
183 21 02 44 14:03 P-51
184 21 02 44 15:25 B-17
185 22 02 44 12:51 B-17
186 22 02 44 14:18 B-17
187 24 02 44 12:30 B-24
188 24 02 44 12:34 B-24
189 25 02 44 13:30 B-17 HSS
eV 25 02 44 13:43 B-17 eV
190 25 02 44 14:45 B-17 HSS
191 25 02 44 14:55 B-24
192 3 03 44 11:40 P-51
193 6 03 44 12:00 B-17
194 6 03 44 12:10 B-17
195 6 03 44 14:45 B-17
196 29 03 44 13:25 P-51
197 29 03 44 13:35 P-51
198 08 04 44 13:50 B-24
199 11 04 44 10:59 B-17
200 22 04 44 20:08 B-24
201 29 04 44 10:56 P-47
202 29 04 44 10:59 B-24
203 07 08 44 14:40 P-47
204 01 01 45 09:23 Typhoon
205 01 01 45 09:25 Typhoon
206 19 03 45 P-51
207 21 03 45 B-24
208 24 03 45 B-24
209 24 03 45 P-51
- 27 03 45 P-47
- 27 03 45 P-47
- 27 03 45 P-47
210 04 04 45 P-51
211 09 04 45 B-26
212 B-26
213 12 04 45 B-26
214 18 04 45 P-47
215 P-47
216 19 04 45 P-51
217 P-51
218 27 04 45 P-47
219 P-47
220 29 04 45 P-47
221 29 04 45 Mosquito
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Old 18th February 2010, 05:52
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204,205 It was by Dora9
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Old 18th February 2010, 14:39
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

As I remember "The Luftwaffe's Last Hope" book confirm that Bär flew Fw 190D during "Bodenplatte".
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Old 18th February 2010, 15:59
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Re: Heinz Baer's vic total

"Six Months To Oblivion" reports it as an A-9. Clarification, anyone?

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