Possible P-51 Wreck discovered in Starnberg/Bavaria

[DB601E]

Hi,
yesterday in my hometown Starnberg while doing some house building, some AC wreck parts have been discovered. I was visiting the site today,
for me it seems to be a P-51 wreck:
Packard Merlin engine and 3 browning 0,5 MG and Landing gear have been visible.

I aked them to clean a browning to get the Serial of one Browning: 1047698 (I'm almost sure with this number but the metall was already a bit rotten)
On a first look, i didn't find any matching MACR.

Anybody has Info about a missing P-51 in this area (Starnberg is about 15 Miles south of munich)

I'll attach some pictures later.

Greetings

Lino

[DB601E]

Attached some pictures:
engine
undercarriage
part mounted on engine with production and serial number

I was not able to find any numbers/serial of the engine, as there was not enough time.

Greetings

[Flupke]

Hello
I didn’t found the exact number of your gun into the microfilm , however serials 1047696 1047694 belonged to the P-51D 44-15639 loss the 17/4/45
1st Lt Thacker Robert K.(POW)O-759113 55th FG 338th FS MACR 13919

1047693 & 1047697 was on 44-15672 loss 19/2/45 364th FG 385th FS
1st Lt McCubbin James L.(POW)O-708895
Around Varrel , MACR 12506
Regards
Phil

[Leendert]

Phil,

The loss of 44-15639 seems a bit (too) far from Munich: see http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/Pil...t%20L%20Lt.htm

But indeed, many MACRs give gun numbers, so that's a good way to find the Starnberg P-51!

Regards,

Leendert

[DB601E]

Thanks Phil and Leendert,
this AC wreck seems to be a mistery. As always, i can't get involved in any research case that could be solved in an easy way.


This AC doesn't seem to be one of our known crashes or missing AC's in our region. Another strange point: Only about 100 meters away have been many buildings already these days. Nobody out of my old friends from the city has memories about a AC crash in this area. But the AC was found in a depth only about 2-4 meters, so it is likely, that many parts have been visible after crash.

[Flupke]

As the serial did not appear into the microfilm A1114 that may mean that no MACR was established, maybe that loss occurred after the occupation of the area.
If you have the serials of the other guns or the Serial of the engine....
Phil

[DB601E]

Hi Phil,
yes, it would be great having the other serials. 2 Brownings have been salvaged yesterday, today until now another 3. I was able to examine only one, as there was a work break for the official ammunition salvage team and i was allowed to examine some of the parts in a "safe" environment.

On the engine i couldn't find any serial or date plate. (But this was almost impossible without a good cleaning of the engine)

Regards

Lino

[DB601E]

Hi Phil,
can you please look also for a SN 1047898
Thanks a lot

Lino

[DB601E]

Hi, i have a new trace: The accident may have happened shortly after war.
Does anybody know, if in the post war Accident reports are also Gun Serials included?

Greetings

Lino

[Flupke]

1047898 is not in the microfilm and no nearby numbers.sorry!
Regards
Phil