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Old 2nd May 2017, 05:12
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Identity of Knight's Cross holder

So, who is this handsome gentleman standing next to a captured P-47D?

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Old 2nd May 2017, 06:25
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Re: Identity of Knight's Cross holder

Hello,

Possibly - Hauptmann Egon Albrecht RK.

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Old 2nd May 2017, 10:15
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Yes, it is Albrecht. There was a set of him at Rechlin, with captured P-47's and B-17's, on Ebay years ago. Bought by someone from Brasil, IIRC.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 15:24
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Uhmm, that makes sense as he was born in Brazil. At least a small number of South American Germans flew for the Luftwaffe all in fighters. 2-3 from Brazil, one from Chile and one from Argentina. There are surely more.
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Re: Identity of Knight's Cross holder

Hello,

There is a Brazilian Historian, known to me that is writing about the Brazilians that flew for the Luftwaffe. I passed him the name sucha a Brazilian, a pilot from Aufklärungsgruppe 123, shot down in June 1944 on a Bf 109 G-8 (via the site of Nick Beale).

My particular writing is about the Brazilian born or Anglo-Brazilians or foreigners that sailed from Brazil to serve the RAF, RCAF, SAAF, in WW2....a work of more than 1,600 written pages in 7 volumes, covering more than 100 such airmen.

Nice Picture and I did not know Hptm Albrecht had flown at Rechlin...

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Old 4th May 2017, 04:09
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Adriano,

That would be great read. Eu tambem leio Portugues, if you don't publish it in English.
Also, could you post a link to the Brazilian AufK 123 pilot? I'd like to read about it.

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Re: Identity of Knight's Cross holder

KAKI3152 (or Carlos),

Where are you from? Portugal?
Well, here is the name of the Recon pilot:
Uffz. EDGAR THIEME, Portuguese (18 years residence in BRAZIL) pilot First/NAG 13.

My memory seems to fail me....he was from NAG 13, not from Aufkl 123 as I said previously...you can check him here on NICK BEALE's site and homesite:
http://www.ghostbombers.com/recon/109/nag13_3.html

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Re: Identity of Knight's Cross holder

Adriano,

I'm not from Portugal. I had the luck to graduate from high school (Escola Americana do Rio de Janeiro) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Altogether, I lived in Rio for seven years.

Thanks for the link. Or should I say Muito Obrigado.

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Hello,

Just as an aside to this discussion, the same photograph was (poorly) reproduced in the following publication:

On Special Missions The Luftwaffe's Research and Experimental Squadrons 1923-1945.
Smith,J Richard, Creek,Eddie J & Peter Petrick.
Hersham:Classic Publications,2003
p.97.

The caption reads:

Above: A group of pilots from JG 1 talk tactics with Rosarius (third from left) with the unit's Kommodore, Oberst Herbert Ihlefeld, next to him. The pilot standing in front of the P-47 (sixth from left) is Hptmn. Hans Philipp. He was killed on 8 October 1943 over Nordhorn while in combat with P-47s.

Hmmmmm! It is certainly not Hans Philipp.

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