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Loss Identifications in Greece,Aegean Sea
What matches these claims?
Unfounded or MISIDENTIFICATION? III/JG27: 13/06/43=2 Beauf.30km O. Salynthos 08/10/43=1 B-25 N.Araxos 08/10/43=1 Manchester?? S.O.Pthymi 30/10/43=1 Beauf.Castelrosso Island 03/11/43=1 B-26 SO.Eleusis 24/01/44=1 Baltimore Aegean See 18/02/44=1 B-26 E.Gadura Nothing found in Baltimore's loss lists (203°Sq.69° Sq,454 RAAF Sq.15 SAAF Sq) Idem for B-26 (14° Sq,24 SAAF Sq,25 SAAF Sq) Thanks in advance michel |
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Re: Loss Identifications in Greece,Aegean Sea
Hello,
From the Tony Woods files I find the following for 1943. 13 July Two Beaufighter claims, one each for Wies and Stuckler of JG27. 8 October Two B25 "Mitchell" claims, one each for Rodel and Hoppe of JG27 One "Manchester" by Stuckler of JG27. 30 October One Beaufighter claim by Loffler of JG27. 3 November One B26 " Marauder" claim by Culemann of JG27. Perhaps for 30 October Beaufighter 47 Sqn - JM317 - Hayter and Harrer, both RNZAF. And possibly for 24 January 44 Two Beaufighter losses, Both of 227 Sqn, JL905 and EL270. No Baltimore so far. All for now Alex |
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Re: Loss Identifications in Greece,Aegean Sea
Hello all
III/JG27: 13/06/43=2 Beauf.30km O. Salynthos 252 lose 1 08/10/43=1 B-25 N.Araxos 4 B-25s claimed 321st BG lose 2 08/10/43=1 Manchester?? S.O.Pthymi A B-25 claim. 30/10/43=1 Beauf.Castelrosso Island 227 2 damaged 1 by a Ju 88 1 by a MC.202 which is this claim 03/11/43=1 B-26 SO.Eleusis 321st lose 1 to Flak and 2 dam by 109s. 24/01/44=1 Baltimore Aegean See 15 SAAF damaged by a 109 18/02/44=1 B-26 E.Gadura Do not know as yet. Not the 227 or 16 SAAF lost Beaufighters. If any one can add anything please do. The Aegean air war will be covered in Vol 5 of the MAW series. Regards Russell |
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Re: Loss Identifications in Greece,Aegean Sea
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Perhaps for 30 October - Beaufighter 47 Sqn - JM317 - Perhaps not! 30/10/1943 No.47 Sqn RAF Beaufighter X JM317 'S' Detailed to escort two B-25's* which were to attack shipping in Naxos harbour. Shot down by flak. Crew evaded via Turkey. 131482 F/O (Pilot) William Edward 'Bill' HAYTER RAFVR - R.T.U., Evaded via Turkey. 1187249 W/O (Nav.) Thomas Joseph HARPER RAFVR - R.T.U., Evaded via Turkey (of 603 Sqn) * B-25's from 321BG/446BS - one lost (42-64579 - MACR 1137) Subject to correction, which is welcomed. Col. |
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Re: Loss Identifications in Greece,Aegean Sea
In summary
13/06/43=2 Beauf.of 227°Sqr ?? (Greek source) or one 252°Sqd ? 08/10/43=2 B-25 of 321°B.GROUP (445°Sqd) 30/10/43=1 Beauf.of 47°Sqr (damaged by flak and finished by Uffz.Loffler ?) 03/11/43=1 B-25 of 321°B.Group (42-32486) gross misidentification,amazing but not exeptional. the 2 beaufighter (JL 905 and EL 270 of 227°Sqr) lost the 23/01/44 and not 24/01/44 (Greek source and fighters over the aegean:Brian Cull) 18/02/44=perhaps misidentification,but what?.....US Losse? or unfounded? michel |
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Re: Loss Identifications in Greece,Aegean Sea
On 13 Jun 43, JL765 (King & Stone) was shot down by three Bf 109s according to the F540
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