TA-152 in JG 301 ?

[Jaap Woortman]

Dear Junker,

Could you give the source of this document?

Jaap

[ju55dk]

Chefgruppe Gen.Qu: Einsatzbereitschaften der flg. Verbände im Bereich Lfl.Kdo. Reich Stand: 12.4.1945, abends.

Is to be found in BA/MA Freiburg. I do not have the exact reference at hand.

Junker

[Zamex]

Could you please explain collumns in that table?

[John P Cooper]

March 1945 (emergency fighter program)

I./JG 301 Ta 152
II./JG 301 Ta 152
III./JG 301 Ta 152 H

I & II were converting from Fw 190 A-9/R11 to Fw 190 D-9/R11 to Ta 152 while III was set to have the Ta 152 H.

I am not sure if I & II were to get the C model or H...

[gibsonfndr]

another question about these planes : do we now have a fair idea about the camo scheme of these planes ? I've seen it changing over the years from my first 1/72 model and its 74/75/76 scheme to guys actually saying that the upper surfaces were RLM 81/82 ...
when I built my trimaster model ten years ago they'd claim a mix of 81/82 on the fuselage and 75/82 on the wings ...

[John Beaman]

Actually, the document supplied by ju55dk says that the Stab Staffel of JG 301 and III.JG 301 are to be equipped with the Ta 152. I do not see II Gruppe as referenced.



Interestingly, a fuel requirements document from 19 March lists Stab, I, II, and III Gruppen of JG 301 as being equipped with the 190 A-9/R11 and IV Gruppe equipped with the 109G-10/R6.

[Jean-Yves Lorant]

Proofs of operational Tank 152 H of Stab./JG 301 wanted ? For the fun here two extracts from Ofw Jupp Keil's logbook:
- flight Nr.160 Ta 152 green 3 combat mission start Stendal on 10 April 1945 19.13 landing Sachau 20.45 duration 92 min "N. Braunschweig Luftkampf mit 15 Thunderbolt. 1 w. Abschuß".
- Flight Nr.163 Ta 152 green 1 combat mission start Hagenow on 17 april 1945 07.35 landing Stendal 08.45 duration 70 min "Tiefangriff Stendal".

Real documents are anyway better than dreams or speculation.

[George Hopp]

Thank you, Jean-Yves, for those two flight book extracts. You are right, "Real documents are anyway better than dreams or speculation." So, thank you again for sharing that information with us.

[Schlumberger]

Originally Posted by Kutscha

There was also Jagdstaffel 152 (formerly EK152) part of Gefechsverband K.d.E and Stab JG11(4 to 6) that had 152Hs. Stab JG11 flew no combat but did loose 2 Hs on a transfer flight to Leck when engaged by Spitfires. Another crashed when landing.

According to "Jagdgeschwader 301/302 "Wilde Sau" In defense of the Reich with the Bf109, Fw190 and Ta152" By Willi Reschke there was a unit called "Erprobungskommando Ta152" led by Hauptman Stolle who flew Ta152H´s. Was this unit actually Stab JG11? I see that Hptm Bruno Stolle was the Gruppenkommandeure of I/JG11in this between 10.44 - 25.11.44, according to www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg11.htm. I guess however that the interesting part is where Hptm stolle served post -44 though...

[SES]

Originally Posted by ju55dk

Situation as of 11. of april 1945! Se attached document.

Junker

Hej Jørn,
I didn't read this closely before, WIH is the type of aircraft assigned to 1/JG 400, it reads like He 226/229 or Me 226/229 ? !!
bregds
SES