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20/04 - Bf109s on eBay & one Emblem
Hi Guys,
I apologize; I'm in little troubles those days & quite confuse. I don't succeed to focus on those stuffs. But Here we go. 1. http://cgi.ebay.de/Messerschmitt-Me-...item3a6548ef8d This ceremony stood in Brussels. You can find a picture in JFV, Teil 2 or 3. Prien states it's Schwarze 2; for me it's Rote 2. There are more pictures of that (old eBay), different angle etc. And a conversation in LEMB. One year ago more or less. But that picture is the better one. Nice 2. http://cgi.ebay.de/Messerschmitt-Me-...item3a6548ffd0 CI+D? Very nice and sharp picture. 3. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item20b88695d1 7./JG 27, Weisse 11. Note the "Balkan campaign" thin yellow band in front of the black cross. Larissa, really? 4. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item20b88697a9 SG+DZ 5. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item20b88697c0 Dortmund. What else? 6. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-notgela...item1e62eaf074 JG 21... Gelbe 9 ? look the picture I put in attachment. But a new one anyway. 7. http://cgi.ebay.de/Messerschmitt-Me-...item5198db3b0b If they say so... 8. http://cgi.ebay.de/Messerschmitt-Me-...item5198db3b58 Perhaps the most interesting in "hunt" speaking because of the victories on tailplane. For a "Weisse 8" seems quite uncommon. Next: JG53 as announced or JG3? 9. http://cgi.ebay.com/KROATIEN-Luftwaf...item2a0feaa678 10. http://cgi.ebay.com/KROATIEN-Luftwaf...item2a0feabda3 11. http://cgi.ebay.com/KROATIEN-Luftwaf...item2a0fead91e Better JG 104. with 2.8.1943 given date and place on picture's back. 12. http://cgi.ebay.com/Orig-Foto-Flugze...item19c4d1a482 just for fun 13. http://cgi.ebay.com/Orig-Foto-Flugze...item19c4d1a793 JG 27. Must look former pictures. 14. http://cgi.ebay.com/Orig-Foto-Flugze...item19c4d1aa12 Just for fun... 15. http://cgi.ebay.com/Orig-Foto-Flugze...item19c4d1acf7 Already put in old eBay auction, while I'm not that sure. 16. http://cgi.ebay.com/SUSSEX-WW2-GERMA...item5ae017c07c Sure we know it; which one? 17. http://cgi.ebay.de/Feldflugplatz-Me-...item4cf6988f43 Note the camera ON TRIPOD! One day I will take time to write what I think about the cameras they did use, lenses, etc... 18. http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-2-Weltkrieg-...item3366ca46bf BOF But quite clear & sharp picture. Pity it's not bigger. and one emblem I don't know. 19. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=320685575544 This remind me an emblem we got during my LEMB time. It was painted on wooden door and we wondered if it was a luftwaffe emblem or not (someone remember?). Bad the picture is cutted; we don't see potential wings. So: a Wyvern or a Tatzelwurm?? Cheers, Franck. ... And here is the picture #6 related Last edited by ouidjat; 23rd September 2011 at 12:27. |
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Re: 20/04 - Bf109s on eBay & one Emblem
Back again,
20. http://cgi.ebay.de/Altes-Foto-Flugze...item3cb720919a 21. http://cgi.ebay.com/alte-AK-Jagdeins...item33670ceb78 22. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-WW2-capt...item27ba5e7e45 Guess it's a G-14/R1... This one is quite interesting (Marc help me!!) Looks like the plane we can find in background of one of "Weisse 44", WNr.463147 picture. In fact the tree is exactely the same; not so, the little bush under right wing too. I got it; here we go: So, It's "Weisse 44" found at Lechfeld - not Augsburg - in May 1945. Good news, it's a new picture. Weisse 44 and 43 has been described by Eric Larger, Franck Oudin & Eduard Eck in Replica N°186, February 2007. Text, pictures, profile and modell. Tschüss, Franck. Last edited by ouidjat; 21st April 2011 at 18:29. |
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Re: photos 1 & 7
Franck,
Thanks (again) for posting these links. Photo 1 is "schwarze 2" (not red) of 8./JG 26. There's another photo of this machine on page 219 of JFV, Teil 2, lower photo. Note the Adamson Staffel emblem. Photo 7 - I doubt that this is JG 53, but more likely 5./JG 52. The II/JG 52 used this very broad Rumpfband early in the Russian campaign, and was not yet using a II Gruppe horizontal bar. GRM |
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Re: 20/04 - Bf109s on eBay & one Emblem
GRM
#1 Ach; I did change my mind since long but forgot it! Schwarze 2, Yawol. In Bruxelles-Evere, 24 Juin 1940. Some older pictures down there, including the one in hangar I suppose it's the same plane at the same place. #7 ??.. Thanks pal. Regards, Franck. Last edited by ouidjat; 23rd September 2011 at 12:28. |
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Re: 20/04 - Bf109s on eBay & one Emblem
Regarding #6 and your attachement - so it was sold at least twice...but I don't think that it's the same plane as on the new ebay photo.
#16 It's Paul Temme's machine. A new photo to me. Last edited by Maciej Góralczyk; 21st April 2011 at 22:35. |
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Re: 20/04 - Bf109s on eBay & one Emblem
Hello Maciej,
I know, I know... But (there is always a but): 1/ Distance from background trees is the same 2/ Slope (slight) climbing from left to right looks the same.. At leats seems the same place... 3/ I just wonder what's the effect on light if the letters are stickers (decals) and not painted?? Possible? But you can be right, flaps and ailerons aren't damaged the same way .. Hummmm, not sure of that, too. Sure, temme plane and a new picture as you said. Thanks Maciej, Cheers, Franck. |
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