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Old 26th October 2006, 10:00
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Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Gentlemen,

my book about the aces of the RHAF in WW II released officially today (the Hungarian edition). The 500 000+ character long text contains the very detailed military biography of every aces (not just the fighters, but assault, bomber and recce aces too) The book contains approx 200 photos (incl. a dozen colour ones) and 8 colour profiles too.
Most of these details were unpublished till now and I do hope, that these men - a handful of brave, fine pilots - not forgotten heroes anymore...


I hope, the English edition will arrive in 2007
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Old 26th October 2006, 10:29
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Hi Csaba,

Congratulations on the book. I look forward to the English editon.

Best Regards

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Old 26th October 2006, 11:29
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Thanks Andy,

the English version will contains more info, than the first Hungarian edition (some extra remembrances and additional details). It will contains much more colour profiles too.

See you soon,
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Old 26th October 2006, 18:52
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Make that two, the English edition looks like a must have to me.

German edition?
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Old 26th October 2006, 22:46
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Hello Csaba .

If you are interested by a French edition, you are welcome.
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Hi Csaba,

Congratulations on the book.
Awaiting the English editon, may you tell us the title of the Hungarian edition?

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Old 27th October 2006, 10:32
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Gentlemen,

regarding a possible German or French edition, the problems are the same (finding a publisher and a good translator)

BTW yes, I guess, this project would be interesting for the German and French readers as well (I know, for example, that the French edition of Tibor Tobak's book was really succesful) And this book contains many unpublished info not just about the Hungarian pilots, of course. It contains many unknown details about the Luftwaffe (for example a detailed story of a shot down German plane by an error of a Hungarian ace with the WNr and many other details, stories, when the same plane was claimed by German and Hungarian pilots or German Flak, etc) It contains many unpublished info about the 15th AAF too (mostly about the victims and defeaters of the Hungarian pilots, with photos), and the situation is the same with the VVS as well (again unpublished details about their victims and defeaters)

Flavio,

The exact Hungarian title is:
Elfelejtett hősök A Magyar Királyi Honvéd Légierő ászai a második világháborúban (Forgotten Heroes Aces of the Royal Hungarian Air Force in World War II)
The ISBN is: 963 9673 064

Are you interested in the Hungarian edition as well?
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Hello Csaba.

I work for the French Editions TMA (Airmagazine, les Ailes françaises, HS Airmag & Ciel de Guerre) and as I told you, we are very interested by your book for a French Edition.

So tell us how to have a sample of your book.

Ps: With regard to the George Punka's excellent book, is it your book brings new information on the Hungarian 109 ?

Ps: you can send me an email to my office for more details: tmaeditions@aol.fr

By advance thank you
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

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Hello Csaba.

I work for the French Editions TMA (Airmagazine, les Ailes françaises, HS Airmag & Ciel de Guerre) and as I told you, we are very interested by your book for a French Edition.

So tell us how to have a sample of your book.

Ps: With regard to the George Punka's excellent book, is it your book brings new information on the Hungarian 109 ?

Ps: you can send me an email to my office for more details: tmaeditions@aol.fr

By advance thank you
Many,

I'll send you an e-mail today.

Well, comparing it with György Punka's book: the Messer is mostly a type history and my book is the history of the men. However, my book contains many unknown particular Bf 109 WNr's and codes as well (exact planes of the aces)

My book contains the following chapters, important parts (here are the main titles):
Dedication (by the eldest living Hungarian ace)
Foreword
Introduction
Short history of the Hungarian air victories (all victories)
The determination of the air victory, confirming system in Hungary
Tactics in air-to-air combat (not just fighter, but assault, bomber, recce, etc and how is it changed during the war)
Awards
Rank comparing table (RHAF, Luftwaffe, VVS, USAAF)
Foreign expressions and abbrevations

Fighter aces over 20 victories
Fighter aces over 10 victories
Fighter aces beween 9-5 victories
Reconnaissance aces (two long recce pilots, who reached the acedom)
Bomber ace (one 2 mot bomber pilot)
Assault ace (an Fw 190 pilot)
Ace in the Luftwaffe (many pilots served in the Luftwaffe with Hungarian roots, but this particular one was a Hungarian citizen, was trained in Hungary and served in the RHAF before volunteered to the Luftwaffe)
The others (the pilots, who were wrongly mentioned in some sources as aces and the pilots, who claimed individually 5 or more kills and at least, 2 of them were confirmed)
Sources

At the pilot biographies, I followed this method:
at first, a block with the following details (at every ace, if these details remained)
Name
Number of air victories
Successes against ground targets
Number of combat sorties
Number of flying hours at the air force
Nickname
RHAF ID number

Then, the list of the awards (Hungarian and foreign, with the awarding date, d/m/y)

Then, list of the air victories (date d/m/y, type, exact area)

After it, his very detailed military biography (schools, training, units, very details of the claims, sometimes with the short bio of the opponent, etc)

Sorry, I cannot write more about the book in this way, you should see it (I don't want to 'hype' myself, but a veteran, who read the manuscript, simply said: 'It is the best Hungarian avition book, which was ever written' - altough he evidently exaggerated, it was a huge work and its an unique material)

See you soon,
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Re: Forgotten Heroes - Hungarian Aces of the WW II

Hello Csaba.

I received your mail and I answered it.

I don't know why, But my feelings say your book is thousand per cent good. So I wait for it quitely...

Behind the words used, and beyond the language you used, your can ear, if you know to listen, the quality of the man and the quality of his writings.

thank you.
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