Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Reviews > Books and Magazines

Books and Magazines Please use this forum to review or discuss books and magazines.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 3rd July 2007, 21:56
Mirek Wawrzynski Mirek Wawrzynski is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 825
Mirek Wawrzynski is an unknown quantity at this point
"CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

At the end of June 2006 was edited in Poland a new book about captured Me 109 (CAPTURED ME 109s). The book is about foreign use of this well knowing fighter (since Civil War in Spain up to the period after 1945-46). Many Me 109s version were captured by the opposite side 1937-1945. Tens of such planes were implemented in flying condition into foreign service in: Spain, Poland, France, Great Britain, USA, Soviet Union, Sweden, Switzerland. The book has gathered many such short stories about these cases and was supported by many photos and many color drawing, perfectly done by Jacek (he is really master in such works).

Shortly about authors:
“Captured Me 109s” is done by two Polish authors: Jacek Jackiewicz (color drawings and illustration) and Mirosław Wawrzyński (text). Both are well know in Poland and also abroad specialist about WW II aviation and co-operate for several years in many such specific projects. Their works you may see and read in well know Polish professional modern warfare history magazines like: Militaria i Fakty and Militaria XX wieku.

Jacek Jackiewicz is professional color side artist and he also has done many black and white drawings of many planes and vehicles (tanks, armored cars ect.). His works had been printed in over hundred publications in: Poland, England, Russia, France, Czech Republic, Japan.

Mirosław Wawrzyński is an author of over 50 articles about military aviation (mostly printed in Poland, but also a few in France, Italy, USA) and 4 books about military aviation in 1936-1956 - mostly about WW II military aviation history.
He is mostly focused on small air forces history (Finland, Hungary, Romanian, Belgian, Yugoslavian ect.), Soviet military aviation (VVS RKKA) and Italian military aviation (1936-1943) and on use the specific planes in other forces (like Hawker Hurricane, Junkers Ju 87, Fiat CR.42 or Me 109. He has written following books:
1. “Regia Aeronautica 1935-1943” (co-works with Zbigniew Lalak 1998 – Polish text)
2. “Hawker Hurricnae in Foreign Service” - Belgian, Finland, Yugoslavian (VVKJ, NOVJ) Romanian, German, Italian and Soviet Union uses - printed in 2001 (Polish text with long English summary)
3. “Ju 87 in Foreign Service” (this is work done together with Jacek in 2005)
4. And his last title is “CAPTURED ME 109s” (edited in June 2007).

Some data about “CAPTURED ME 109s”:
176 pages, 399 black and white photos, 151 color side profiles and 32 three or four views painting schemes. Soft cover, text only in English.
Entire book is published in color.

See more: http://www.kecay.info/

Regards,
Mirek Wawrzyński, a co-author in this nice project, :-)
__________________
Mirek Wawrzyński
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 8th September 2007, 01:01
Juha's Avatar
Juha Juha is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 1,446
Juha is on a distinguished road
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

Hello Mirek
looks great, I like especially the French "Red 9", Soviet G-2 and the British "White 44"

Juha
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 8th September 2007, 13:25
Boris Ciglic's Avatar
Boris Ciglic Boris Ciglic is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Alba Grecca
Posts: 339
Boris Ciglic is on a distinguished road
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

After reading it, I can warmly recommend the book.
A very interesting approach to the subject, text is easy to follow, very well covered with photos and the artwork is absolutely magnificent. Printed in high quality and in full color. There are some minor mistakes in the part dealing with 15/JG 52 and Croat defectors, but nothing serious (this is the subject I know well so I was able to spot it). My sole resentment goes on the behalf of the English translator/editor who could have done a much better job.

Boris
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 8th September 2007, 18:45
John Beaman John Beaman is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
Posts: 2,155
John Beaman is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

Thanks for the comments. Question: Does it have lists of WNrs and original markings for these machines?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 8th September 2007, 23:34
edwest edwest is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,612
edwest is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

Would you list some of the errors? I mean if it's not too much trouble.






Regards,
Ed
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 9th September 2007, 00:30
Dénes Bernád Dénes Bernád is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hungary
Posts: 1,875
Dénes Bernád will become famous soon enough
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

The airplane shown on page 96 was not a captured '109. It's an erroneous information.
http://www.soundcity.pl/Kecay/Me109/13.jpg

That aircraft was flown willingly to Italy by a Rumanian officer, Cpt. rez. av. Constantin Cantacuzino, in a diplomatic mission, and he intended to return to Rumania with it. It was only an accident that prevented him to return with his mount, and used a P-51 instead - which, in turn, was not a captured bird either.
__________________
Dénes
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 9th September 2007, 00:52
Rasmussen Rasmussen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lower Saxony, Germany
Posts: 690
Rasmussen is on a distinguished road
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

I had an short view in a book store in Warszawa only, but IIRC:
- the well known W.Nr. 462 818 was mentioned as W.Nr. 262 818 (like on the picture to see but wrong painted by Erla workers)
- the well known "dark" Erla G-10 (here in a thread discussed too) was mentioned as "G-6/AS" with an wrong colour profile

I believe there were some other mistakes but unfortunately I can't remember me .

Best wishes
Rasmussen
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 15th September 2007, 21:42
Blue-Max's Avatar
Blue-Max Blue-Max is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lugoj, Romania
Posts: 35
Blue-Max is on a distinguished road
Question Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád View Post
That aircraft was flown willingly to Italy by a Rumanian officer, Cpt. rez. av. Constantin Cantacuzino, in a diplomatic mission, and he intended to return to Rumania with it. It was only an accident that prevented him to return with his mount, and used a P-51 instead - which, in turn, was not a captured bird either.
If I am remembering right, after a safe landing, the aircraft was flown in Italy by an american pilot who damaged it. This was the cause of the accident ...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 18th September 2007, 14:05
Mirek Wawrzynski Mirek Wawrzynski is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 825
Mirek Wawrzynski is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

Quote:
Thanks for the comments. Question: Does it have lists of WNrs and original markings for these machines?
Yes, the book contains such info like planen's WNrs, each one for each plane. There are some small gaps in such info, due to the lack of these information in the sources. Anyway most of the plane's WNrs are given as much as possible but of course there are not the engines' WNrs.

Yes, there are in several cases: 1st orginal Luftwaffe markings and the next new one (after captured). This approach is presented in several most interesting planes, which were captured and later served (were flying) in France, RAF, USAAF, VVS RKKA (like 1. - LW, 2. - Soviet, 3. - USAAF) or PAF (1. Croat, 2. PAF) services. Such flying cases have such different camuflages + markings.

To Dénes B
There are used of course in the title very wide meaning of the word "captured". The plane flown by Cpt. rez. av. Constantin Cantacuzino, has the story about the reason of his political mission with American officer on the board (well know story). It was a pity to "lost" such nice case and painted Romanian plane, which markings in this mission do not fit in fact to any know air froces during WW II.

For me it is stragne remarks done by you about title. You, as an author, well know that the title and the words do not 100% fit, many times, to the reality and the past. There are always some exceptions, and you have marked it by my title. Thanks for your "hawk's eyes" and comments,:-)

Knowing your book about "Romanian Air Force. Prime decade ...1938-1947)" you had "forgoten" to written or add one importan word: "Royal" in own title. This is also not good and do not fit to the history and past of Royal Romanian Air Force. Someone can directly think reading your cover that it was "communist, or neutral" air force!
Maybe I am wrong but Romania was, in written by you period, still a kingdom? The communist regime was after 1947 etc. Your cover does not right informed and
Quote:
It's an erroneous
for young reader, who are wrong informed about this issue from the 1st pagae = cover page.

Regards,
Mirek Wawrzynski, co-author of the book.
__________________
Mirek Wawrzyński
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18th September 2007, 16:41
Dénes Bernád Dénes Bernád is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hungary
Posts: 1,875
Dénes Bernád will become famous soon enough
Re: "CAPTURED ME109s" a New Book! July 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek Wawrzynski View Post
Knowing your book about "Romanian Air Force. Prime decade ...1938-1947)" you had "forgoten" to written or add one importan word: "Royal" in own title. This is also not good and do not fit to the history and past of Royal Romanian Air Force. Someone can directly think reading your cover that it was "communist, or neutral" air force!
Maybe I am wrong but Romania was, in written by you period, still a kingdom? The communist regime was after 1947 etc. Your cover does not right informed and for young reader, who are wrong informed about this issue from the 1st pagae = cover page.
For your information, the title of my book included in the Squadron/signal series was chosen by the Publisher, not me, in line with the other 'air forces special' titles. All I could do is to include a sub-title - for the first and only time in this series - which clearly spells out the time period covered by the book, i.e., 1938-1947, when Rumania was (still) a kingdom. Moreover, I referred to the Rumanian air force throughout the book as ARR, i.e. Royal Rumanian Air Force.
Therefore, please contact the US Publisher with your complaint, if you wish.

P.S. Let me point out the the analogy you try to imply between the title I authored and the title you co-authored is a forced one, and it's not logical, either.
__________________
Dénes
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Tirpitz book released Kjetil Aakra Books and Magazines 2 25th November 2006 01:21
32 GIAP history book vol.1 Audrius Books and Magazines 7 30th October 2006 22:46
Fw 58 book - I have a serious question on contents. Sergio Luis dos Santos Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 8 15th December 2005 14:46
238 Squadron pilot in the sea 1940 Jon Allied and Soviet Air Forces 26 24th July 2005 14:10


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 20:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net