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16th February 2008, 13:31
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Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
Hi
Looking for any Ar196 losses in the Aegean on the 17-6-44. Three were claimed by 227 and 16 SAAF Sqns. Regards David 
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18th February 2008, 17:46
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
On 17.06.44 the 4./S.A.Gr. 126 reported at least one Ar 196 lost to enemy aircraft in the Ägean. Unfortunatlely, no further info available. There should be a Namentliche Verlustmeldung somewhere.
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18th February 2008, 19:00
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
I have a badly burned NVM for an Uffz Rudolf (unreadable) born 3 Jan 1921 in Madgeburg who was wounded in combat SE Peloponnes in combat with 9 Beaufighters and yes it was 4/126
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21st February 2008, 17:13
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
Dave Wadman
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21st February 2008, 17:15
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
Dave Wadman supplied this info:-
"Here are two to choose from which may fit the bill, both from SAGr. 126": Ar 196 W.Nr623010, D1+AN s/d in combat with Beaufighters SE of the Peloponnese, Qu. 3752-23Ost Uffz Paduch (F), Ltn Böcking (B) both safe. Ar 196 W.Nr100505, D1+FE s/d in combat with Beaufighters SE of the Peloponnese, Qu. 3752-23Ost Ogfr Schramm (F), Uffz Busse (B - LWIA) David
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21st February 2008, 18:51
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
Guys
I have never before seen any WNr for the Ar 196 being quoted like this. Can somone explain what batches these Ar 196 came from? Since production is quoted as 505, I have losses in the range of 0007 - 0437 and 1001-1017 + two odd ones, 2520 and 2591 It does not leave much room for other batches...  Cheers Stig
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23rd February 2008, 13:15
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
Hi Stig
I have a Ar196A-5 with W.Nr 1960290 which was dam 35% in aircombat, does this apppear in your list ? David
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23rd February 2008, 17:40
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
@David
The Ar 196 you mentioned D1+AN (5. Staffel) and D1+FE (19. Staffel) could`nt belong to 126. Aufklärungsgruppe with only 4 Staffel. How do you explain that? Last edited by byron-; 23rd February 2008 at 18:31.
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23rd February 2008, 17:56
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
Hi byron
As I said in the post above I got the info from Dave Wadman, perhaps he could tell us more ? Were did you get 5 and 19 Staffel from ? Regards David
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23rd February 2008, 18:21
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Re: Any known Ar196 losses for 17-6-44 ?
The two WNr. for the losses given by David Wadman are confusing.
WNr. 623010 seems to be a Fokker production aircraft, but it does not fit the range given by Tom Willis here . WNr. 100505 is even more of a mystery: 1960505 seems far too high. Another possibility is WNr. 1005, which could explain the E in D1+FE as a leftover from its SKZ (DH+ZE). @David WNr. 1960290 is not in my list! Do you have more details? Hans
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