Whirlwind photos

[Revi16]

Not sure if these had been seen before or not? Posted on another forum,
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=950305

[Kaiyan]

I believe that this is P-7095 SF-H lost with Sgt Brown on 23.01.43

[Smithy]

It is. Brown's cause of death was under unexplained circumstances which could possibly raise questions about his treatment after he force landed.

Obviously fairly rare images of a Whirlwind lost over France on ops.

[brewerjerry]

Originally Posted by Smithy

It is. Brown's cause of death was under unexplained circumstances which could possibly raise questions about his treatment after he force landed.

Obviously fairly rare images of a Whirlwind lost over France on ops.

Hi
Yes, strange circumstances indeed.

There are a few photos of whirlwind losses on ops kicking around

jerry

[Kaiyan]

here are a couple of others first is HE-G the other is unknown to me

[Revi16]

Originally Posted by Kaiyan

here are a couple of others first is HE-G the other is unknown to me

I believe the "other" is SF-H shown in my OP.

[Horst Weber]

Originally Posted by Smithy

.... Brown's cause of death was under unexplained circumstances which could possibly raise questions about his treatment after he force landed.

This is indeed a good question. But in January 1943 are no bad treatments of POW-airmen in Western Europe known. Bad treatment in a number of cases started after the Goebbels speach and newpaper article from July 1944, when he said that the German Police should not protect enemy terror-bomber-crews by the anger of the population.

In your case, something strange must have happend.

Horst Weber

[Alex Smart]

Hello,
These pictures appeared in the LEMB forum some years ago.
In post five above the second photo with a mast in the background is Browns a/c "SF-H".
The same mast can be viewed in other photos of his a/c.
Alex

[Kaiyan]

many thanks for info clears up an unknown

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by brewerjerry

Hi
Yes, strange circumstances indeed.

There are a few photos of whirlwind losses on ops kicking around

jerry

Hi Jerry,

I really just meant that photos of downed Whirlies are rarer than say photos of Spits. They are out there but not in huge numbers such as those of other British fighter and fighter/bomber types.

Originally Posted by Horst Weber

This is indeed a good question. But in January 1943 are no bad treatments of POW-airmen in Western Europe known. Bad treatment in a number of cases started after the Goebbels speach and newpaper article from July 1944, when he said that the German Police should not protect enemy terror-bomber-crews by the anger of the population.

In your case, something strange must have happend.

Horst Weber

Horst, I think one problem with this assumption is that Brown was strafing ground targets nearby when he was brought down. This certainly wouldn't be the only time that a downed airman was summarily dealt with by the those he'd been strafing. The "unexplained circumstances" for his death only adds fuel to the fire here. As we know the German authorities were usually quite concise in terms of stating an airman had died of wounds or succumbed to wounds while undergoing medical treatment.

I agree this is all conjecture but the "unexplained circumstances" brings up a red flag for me in this instance especially due to what this airman was doing before force landing.

In truth we'll probably never know so I admit my hypothesis is pure conjecture.

Cheers,

Tim