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Old 30th June 2020, 17:01
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Re: Photo Voisin

Thanks Jean

I all honesty I am not comfortable with the site you present and their listing of type V. Could easily be a mistake due to the V marking the unit used....

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Old 1st July 2020, 09:38
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Re: Photo Voisin

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a crashed Voisin with a chevron marking at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW1-U-S-Off...YAAOSwoF5cjTBR


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Old 1st July 2020, 10:10
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Re: Photo Voisin

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Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a crashed Voisin with a chevron marking at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW1-U-S-Off...YAAOSwoF5cjTBR


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Hello
The photo was taken at Paris, Place de la Concorde (recognizables columns and typical parisian cops), during the winter. The hunt for the "V" markings continue...
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Old 1st July 2020, 10:17
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Re: Photo Voisin

Hello Jean,


Thanks. I was hoping someone could identify the location, but hadn't expected Paris. I'm guessing, and it is a guess, given the number 7 inside the V, it may ne a different unit than V.1354? I take it that the aircraft was exhibited to show the sacrifices of war?



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Old 1st July 2020, 14:07
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Re: Photo Voisin

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This could be the crashed Voisin (pilot Sachot, gunner Le Juge, both wounded), who suffered an engine failure the night from January 30 to 31 1918, during a German night bombing attack, and had to make an emergency landing at the place de la Concorde, ending in a low wall. The plane was removed two days later.



A remotely possible escadrille is the 114 (from a photo in "La Vie aérienne illustrée" a few days later, showing a Voisin X canon with an owl and two guys in front presented as Sachot and Le Juge). But that can be misleading (VB 114 was far from Paris at this date), and press photos had not to be accurate, specially at war time.



According to the press coverage (duly censored), the plane was a "Voisin-canon".



A more probable explanation for the chevron is the plane belonging to an escadrille of the "Camp retranché de Paris" (CRP), in charge of the aerial defense of the city. They were the Escadrilles 461 thru 472, each having a chevron oriented differently (>, <, V...). Best guess would be Escadrille 470, and perhaps more information in the book "les escadrilles de l'aéronautique militaire en France".



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Old 12th July 2020, 20:04
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Re: Photo Voisin

Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of Voisin Type VIII Bn.2 V.1670 at:




https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...038783430.html



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Old 1st August 2020, 21:44
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Re: Photo Voisin

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Voisin Type 3 LA serial V.434 at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Photo-Avion-...QAAOSwyH9fHsd3


Other photos of Voisn aircraft from the same seller can be seen at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Photo-Avion-...0AAOSwWDNfHsfW


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Photo-Avion-...IAAOSw6NdfHscs


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Old 20th August 2020, 20:42
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Re: Photo Voisin

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of Voisin Type 4 Cannon V.981 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...oAAOSw5alfPm~-


https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...UAAOSwDIZfPm-0


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Old 21st August 2020, 08:24
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Re: Photo Voisin

Interesting shots Clint

Aircraft has previously been identified as V.991 shot down 10.1.1916.
The second digit is difficult to see and we now have three offers, V.901, V.981 and V.991.

Is V.981 your own interpretation or do you have some other "back up" confirming the serial?

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Old 21st August 2020, 09:08
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Re: Photo Voisin

Hi Stig,


It is in fact V.991 of VB 103. I could tell that V.901 was too low a number to be a type 4,but read a branch across the serial as forming an 8, but it isn't its a 9 ascan be seen clearly in other photos.


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