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Old 10th May 2016, 12:34
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Hello ,

According to some sources B-24 44-40414 491BG/853 made a crashlanding on a airfield in Belgium on a supply drop to the Nijmegen-Endhoven area on september 18 1944.Other sources says that the aircraft made a crashlanding on the same day at Swingfiels Minnis 2 miles north off Folkstone on the same day ?

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Old 10th May 2016, 13:50
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Re: B-24 44-40414 491BG/853BS

Alain..... this was a J-160-CO (almost new aircraft), it was Mission 639 and 5 x 491BG B-24s crash-landed, 2 at Woodbridge, 1 at Watton, 1 at Brussels and 44-40414 at Swingfield ( possibly trying for Hawkinge just to the south); 1 also MIA .
It burned on the ground. Code was T8-barS, and had no time to be named.
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Old 10th May 2016, 14:11
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Hello ,

Thanks for the info , do you have any idea wich aircraft crashlanded at Brussels?

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Re: B-24 44-40414 491BG/853BS

440918 B-24 42-52524 The Lemon 392 576 Martin, Robert C Market Garden 1000 Bruxelles BE
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and:

440918 B-24 #040 392 577 McGrath, T F Market Garden IP12 RAF Woodbridge AF UK
440918 B-24 #164 392 577 Propper, Henry M Market Garden IP12 RAF Woodbridge AF UK
440918 B-24 #495 392 579 Porter, Henry K Market Garden IP12 RAF Woodbridge AF UK
440918 B-24 #528 392 579 Leser, Henry J Market Garden IP12 RAF Woodbridge AF UK
440918 B-24 42-50673 392 579 Sewell, W P Market Garden 2460 Lichtaart BE
440918 B-24 42-94886 Feathered Injun 392 579 Gerow, James A Market Garden 4444 SM 's-Heer Abtskerke NL
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Thank you very much for information.

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Hi Frankie.......these are all 392BG, Alain is interested in the 491BG B-24 (?).
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Old 13th May 2016, 00:46
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Re: B-24 44-40414 491BG/853BS

Hi

Apologies for the slight thread-drift here Alain, but Frankie, could you tell me where you got those B-24 details from, please? My interest being the a/c which landed at Woodbridge. I haven't got those on my list of a/c 'arrivals' there, so would like to confirm.

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Hello Ian ,

Perhaps this can help:

http://www.b24.net/missions/MM091844.htm

18 September 1944 Mission #169 Target: Holland Supply DZ
In preparation for this first so-called "Trucking Mission," crew training of all four squadrons was conducted on the 17th, centered on practicing low level supply drops. The Drop Zone specified was near Eindhoven in Holland for the resupply of artillery and small arms ordnance to airborne troops who had landed in the area on the 17th.
At about 1015 hours, 40 aircraft began take-offs with an Army Quartermaster Corps drop master aboard each ship. Crossing the Island of Walcheren, flak was encountered and from there to target. Light arms fire was also encountered, being especially heavy from the IP to release point.
Severe damage and loss of aircraft were suffered but all supply bundles and ammunition were dropped accurately on the briefed DZ. Four aircraft were heavily damaged and were forced to land at Woodbridge on return to England. These were Lieutenant H. K. Porter and Lieutenant H. J. Leser in ships #495 and #528 respectively, both from the 579th, and Lieutenants T. F. McGrath in #040 and H. M. Propper in #164 with wounded aboard, both from the 577th Squadron.

18 Sep 1944 579th Sqdn.
A/C 528
P Leser, H.J. 1st Lt.
CP Smoley, E.J. 1st Lt.
N Sellers, F.R. 1st Lt.
B - -
E Rodgers, B.A. S/Sgt.
R Licht, J. T/Sgt.
RW Weckel, W.R. S/Sgt.
LW Fowler, D.E. S/Sgt.
BT - -
TG Damiano, A. S/Sgt.
NG DeFrates, R.R. S/Sgt.
X Hochreiter, C.J. Pvt
18 Sep 1944 577th Sqdn.
A/C 040
P McGrath, T.F. 1st Lt.
CP Cooke, B.J. F/O
N Wright, H.R. 1st Lt.
B Schug, E.W. 1st Lt.
E McFadden, R.J. T/Sgt.
R Syverson, C.D. T/Sgt.
RW Walsh, H.R. S/Sgt.
LW Vines, V.L. S/Sgt.
BT Schroeder, R.C. S/Sgt.
TG - -
X Roberts, J.H. Pvt.
18 Sep 1944 579th Sqdn.
A/C 495
P Porter, H.K. 2nd Lt.
CP Bolstridge, C. 2nd Lt.
N Behr, A.J. F/O
NG Traina, S. S/Sgt.
E DeSario, J.L. T/Sgt.
R Nero, R.A. T/Sgt.
RW Placht, E.J. S/Sgt.
LW Amato, J.J. S/Sgt.
BT - -
TG Zollinger, P.D. S/Sgt.
X Whitesell, C.H. Jr. Pvt.
18 Sep 1944 577th Sqdn.
A/C 164
P Propper, H.M. 2nd Lt.
CP Brier, A.L. 2nd Lt.
N Barber, A.G. 2nd Lt.
B Garrett, H.L. 2nd Lt.
E McPherson, C.C. S/Sgt.
R Dodd, W.C. S/Sgt.
RW Musante, A.B. Jr. S/Sgt.
LW Chapman, C.M. S/Sgt.
BT - -
TG Wickham, R.H. Sgt.
X Peden, C.D. Sgt.

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Old 14th May 2016, 11:54
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Re: B-24 44-40414 491BG/853BS

Hi Alain

Many thanks for those details. Have to add them to my list.

Wonder if I can find the landing times from somewhere.

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