Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11th November 2008, 04:05
RZP303 RZP303 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Kingston, Canada
Posts: 1
RZP303 is on a distinguished road
Horbaczewski's death and crash site.

I asked this question on this forum several years ago but lost the information. The thread doesn't seem to have been archived.

I was wondering if there has ever been an investigation or excavation of the crash site of S/Ldr Horbaczewski's Mustang, or if anything has ever been found at the site. Was there ever a report done, or do records exist of the original discovery of the site and removal and burial of the remains. I seem to remember in the original answer that the wreckage was originally found by an American grave registration team, and that the site wasn't discovered until 1947(?)

Hope someone here might be able to help.

Cheers,
Richard
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11th November 2008, 09:21
Andy Saunders Andy Saunders is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South East England
Posts: 1,353
Andy Saunders is on a distinguished road
Re: Horbaczewski's death and crash site.

I do have an extensive report in French. I will try to find it and can let you have copy. PM me with your e mail address.

The site was visited/found by the late Al Brown a few years ago.

What is your interest?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11th November 2008, 09:35
Bertrand H Bertrand H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Dijon, FRANCE
Posts: 816
Bertrand H is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Horbaczewski's death and crash site.

Hello Richard,

The archives of the Red Cross gave just after the war the village of Vellennes (Oise) where the Mustang of Horbaczewski crashed.

Bertrand
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11th November 2008, 12:40
Franek Grabowski Franek Grabowski is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 2,352
Franek Grabowski is on a distinguished road
Re: Horbaczewski's death and crash site.

Richard
Horbaczewski crashed just off the east end of Beauvais Nivillers runway. Germans removed the surface wreckage, and the aircraft was not dug up until 1947. Reputedly Horbaczewski's mother did an extensive search which led to the dig. The problem was that Horbaczewski's body was pressed below the engine, and a full recovery was needed. 1 MREU was responsible IIRC. There is a report filled by F/L Pedder(?), which I have seen in English, French and Polish versions, providing few details on identification.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11th November 2008, 12:42
Ex Shack Ex Shack is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Berkshire U K
Posts: 140
Ex Shack is on a distinguished road
Re: Horbaczewski's death and crash site.

Hi Richard
If it is any help, he is buried in a CWGC grave at Creil Communal Cemetery.
S/Ldr Eugeniusz P Horbaczewski, DSO,DFC, P2198, PAF. age 26.
D 18/8/44. Grave- Plot 1, Grave379
This comes from a list I have giving non-Commonwealth Airmen for whose memorials and Graves CWGC is responsible
Regards
Dick

Last edited by Ex Shack; 11th November 2008 at 16:30.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Researching Bf-109 Crash in Sth London Craig MacPhee Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 16 4th April 2006 23:00


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 16:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net