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Old 2nd April 2013, 10:15
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Question Seeking info on 2 Zerstorer pilots - R.Hubel and W.Berlin

Hallo gentlmen.

I am trying to find out any possible facts on career of those two chaps:
Known facts:

Reinhard Hubel
In 1940 he flew with 4./ZG26
Was shot down an wounded over Greece in may 1941.
Again flew with 4./ZG26 in 1941 and early 1942 over USSR, and again wounded in june 1941.

It is known that he flew with I./ZG2 (it was formed from II./ZG26) in 1942 (duty?) and then with III./ZG1 (was formed from I./ZG2) in 1943...

Wilhelm Berlin
Flew with 4./ZG26 in 1940, then over Balkans in 1941.
Then - over USSR in 1941, wounded on 27.06.41.
Then - in spring 1942 - flew with unknown unit (some sourses state that he went to Bf109 equipped III./ZG1, but it is doubtly) - probably with I./ZG2, and when it was redesignated to III./ZG1 and got Me210 - he was StaKa and then Gr.Kdr. III./ZG1, KiA in Me410.

I am very interested in "ZG2 1942" period of their carreer.
All additions are highly welcomed.
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Old 6th April 2013, 01:47
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Re: Seeking info on 2 Zerstorer pilots - R.Hubel and W.Berlin

Here are the losses I have for these guys - which you may already have:

Bf 110E-1, 4062, Berlin, Oblt. Wilhelm, , II., 4., ZG 26, , , , , 27-Jun-41, Crew WIA due to Flak. Notlandung., , Lfl.2/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , bei Nowawola, 10km nordwestlich Wolka (?), 90%, F, Bf Ofw. Josef Masson, ,
Bf 110E-1
, 4048, Berlin, Oblt. Wilhelm, , II., 4., ZG 26, , , BC+HN, , 06-Sep-41, WIA due to Flak., 07-Sep, bei Ösel per loss., Lfl.1/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.6; Ring, ZG 26 loss list; FB Caspar Stein, , Saaremaa, b, F, , ,
Me 410A-1
, 420025, Berlin, Major Wilhelm, , III., Stab III., ZG 1 (ZG 26), , 2N+AD, , , 10-Oct-43, Gr.Kdr. Crew KIA due to Luftkampf., WNr. 110025 per Ring., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/RLV, WASt; Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.146; Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , bei Osnabrück, 100%, F, Bf Ltn. Heinz Wulf, ,
Bf 110C, 2311, Hubel, Oblt. Reinhard, , II., 4., ZG 26, , , , , 07-Apr-41, Bruchlandung., , Lfl.4/Bulgarien, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4, , Sofia, 60%, F, , ,
Bf 110E-1, 3979, Hubel, Oblt. Reinhard, , II., 4., ZG 26, weiße A, 3U+AM, , , 20-May-41, Stkp. Crew MIA due to Flak., , Lfl.4/Mittelmeer, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , Iraklion, 100%, F, Bf Fw. Heinz Schrodt, , (obviously returned!)
Bf 110D-1, 4088, Hubel, Oblt. Reinhard, , II., 4., ZG 26, , , , , 09-Jul-41, Crew injured in crash due to armament explosion., Flak per Ring., Lfl.2/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , Ulla, 100%, F, Bf Fw. Herbert Straube, ,
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Re: Seeking info on 2 Zerstorer pilots - R.Hubel and W.Berlin

Thx Jim.

I am still miss their 1942 period.

According some sourses, III./ZG1 (Bf109E) was formed with Commanding officers from ZG (Bf110) units:

Gr.Kdr. III./ZG1 - Maj.Roland Borth (ex-Staka 9./ZG26)
StaKa 7./ZG1 - according some sourses - Oblt. Tratt (ex-StaKa 6./ZG26)
StaKa 8./ZG1 - Oblt. Dominikus Kneidl (ex-pilot of 3./SKG210 and 3./ZG1)
StaKa 9./ZG1 - Oblt.(Hptm.?) Wilhelm Berlin (ex-StaKa 4./ZG26)

Both was killed in sept.42, Tratt was transferred to II./ZG2 on 30 june 1942, Kneidl was killed and Berlin - I miss his duty in mid 1942, as he must had rejoin I./ZG2 (to be renamed III./ZG1 in oct.42) to fly Me210/Me410...
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Re: Seeking info on 2 Zerstorer pilots - R.Hubel and W.Berlin

Hi guys

I have for Berlin that he was the Staffelkapitän of 4./ZG26 from 20th May1941 until 27th June 1941, and again from March 1942 until 30th April 1942 when he became the Staffelkapitän of 8./ZG1, a position he held until September 1942. He was the kommandeur of III./ZG1 8th June 1943 until his death. He was postumously awarded the DKiG on 3rd April 1944. Made one known claim a B-17 on 9th October 1943 at 1258 hrs and from 600 metres!

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